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First post, by jrumsey1

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Hiya,

Im trying to play tomb raider I on glidos however the fmvs play for a few seconds before stopping and making a very loud buzz kind of noise, will try and get a video capture of it to demonstrate what i mean. Repeats all the time for every fmv.

Game: Tomb Raider I (Sold-Out V2.1)
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1
BIOS: Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 7450 Dual-Core Processor (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 1790MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics: NVIDA GEFORCE 9200
Audio:Realtek High Definition Audio

VDMSOUND 2.1.0
Dosboxforglidos 1.1
Glidos 1.47
Installed using TrandUBforglidos.exe

Putting it into OpenGL and turning off VESA support seems to work (couldn't do it via editing the ini as directed on glidos site) so now the FMVs are playing through completly and without noise but the picture is quite low quality as in i can see the 'scan lines'

Any way of fixing this?

Reply 1 of 20, by Glidos

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I have seen that behaviour before, but not for a long time. It would happen if the graphics card was having trouble keeping up, but that shouldn't be the case with your card, unless you selected OpenGL and didn't have the OpenGL drived installed.

The setting change that has made it work for you is turning VESA support off. That makes the FMV's play using Window's DOS support. It is very strange that that works under Vista.

Have you tried selecting VDos32 under DOS emulation (and turning VESA support back on)? That's the fastest emulation when it works.

One other possibility is a problem reading from the CD. It would have to be something wrong with the drive making it work in PIO mode. I sort of doubt that.

Reply 2 of 20, by jrumsey1

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just checked last set of drivers was 2 weeks ago and it supported OpenGL 4.1

and im on 64bit vista so vdos32 doesnt work

Last edited by jrumsey1 on 2010-07-28, 10:11. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 3 of 20, by Glidos

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jrumsey1 wrote:

but if i didnt have opengl installed then surely the game wouldnt run under that mode?

It would run but very slowly in software emulation mode.

Have you tried selecting VDos32 under DOS emulation (and turning VESA support back on)? That's the fastest emulation when it works.

VDos32 doesnt seem to be working, but probably because im on 64bit vista,

Aw right of course. The fact that you were running without VESA support made me think you must be on a 32bit system, but I was forgetting that DOSBox would then supply VESA.

I'm having trouble thinking what to suggest. I have seen the problem before, but years ago, when some graphics cards had trouble keeping up.

Reply 4 of 20, by jrumsey1

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nah it runs full speed and faster the direct mode and it also does the same thing when i mount the cd image of my game both of the original and my 'enhanced' copy

Reply 5 of 20, by Glidos

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I'm still struggling to think what this could be.

Any problems during the rest of the game?

For the few seconds that the FMV's play, do they play cleanly or stop and start?

Reply 6 of 20, by jrumsey1

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theres no problems anywhere else only in the FMVs, and the visual content plays fine but it cuts short as soon as the sound starts playing up. Any updates/ideas on how to fix this yet?

Reply 7 of 20, by jrumsey1

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Any ideas yet? i read on an old thread you was thinkin of making it capable of playing the AVI copies of the HQ fmvs ...

Reply 8 of 20, by Glidos

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That is something I'm hoping to do, but I just have no time at the moment.

Sorry, I've had no further ideas on your problem. I guess one posibility is to

turn off Glidos's VESA support, so that DOSBox does the FMVs directly. If you add the lines

[sdl]
fullscreen=true

to the file dosbox.conf in the Glidos folder, then hopefully the FMVs will play full screen. Might work. They'll play with scanlines showing, because that's actually how they look: Glidos has special processing that fills between the lines.

The one other thing that has in the past mysteriously solved many problems is to uninstall everything and reinstall, but I wouldn't hold up much hope in this case.

Reply 10 of 20, by Glidos

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I've heard of that one before, but not for like years. What OS are you on?

Reply 11 of 20, by RaVeN-05

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I am fixed this broblem. Its Not original CD.
Now i had next problem, on your site you write that we can play 2 levels without logo? but it instantly appear.
So there is exist any other (demo?) games that can be played witout logo in first level?

https://www.youtube.com/user/whitemagicraven
https://go.twitch.tv/whitemagicraventv

Reply 13 of 20, by megaman9511

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hello. sorry to "bump" this topic but I can't get the Tomb raider 1 FMVs to play fullscreen. Adding
[sdl]
fullscreen=true
to the .conf file kinda works, but when I get to the game main menu all I get is a black screen. Can anyone help ?

I'm using glidos 1.47
the modified dosbox for x64 systems
opengl mode, with VESA glidos emulation off

Reply 14 of 20, by Glidos

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megaman9511 wrote:
hello. sorry to "bump" this topic but I can't get the Tomb raider 1 FMVs to play fullscreen. Adding [sdl] fullscreen=true to […]
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hello. sorry to "bump" this topic but I can't get the Tomb raider 1 FMVs to play fullscreen. Adding
[sdl]
fullscreen=true
to the .conf file kinda works, but when I get to the game main menu all I get is a black screen. Can anyone help ?

I'm using glidos 1.47
the modified dosbox for x64 systems
opengl mode, with VESA glidos emulation off

Try taking "fullscreen=true" out of the .conf file, and turning on VESA emulation in Glidos. That way DOSBox should pipe the FMVs to Glidos's main window.

Reply 15 of 20, by Glidos

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RaVeN-05 wrote:

And You not included Shadow Warrior with 3dfx patch )

There was a problem with Shadow Warrior. I have a go at getting it working, but without success.

Reply 16 of 20, by Glidos

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RaVeN-05 wrote:

I am fixed this broblem. Its Not original CD.
Now i had next problem, on your site you write that we can play 2 levels without logo? but it instantly appear.
So there is exist any other (demo?) games that can be played witout logo in first level?

If that's Tombraider where you are getting the logo in the first level, try pressing F4 and restarting the game.

Descent II also should play a few levels without the logo.

Reply 17 of 20, by megaman9511

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Glidos wrote:
megaman9511 wrote:
hello. sorry to "bump" this topic but I can't get the Tomb raider 1 FMVs to play fullscreen. Adding [sdl] fullscreen=true to […]
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hello. sorry to "bump" this topic but I can't get the Tomb raider 1 FMVs to play fullscreen. Adding
[sdl]
fullscreen=true
to the .conf file kinda works, but when I get to the game main menu all I get is a black screen. Can anyone help ?

I'm using glidos 1.47
the modified dosbox for x64 systems
opengl mode, with VESA glidos emulation off

Try taking "fullscreen=true" out of the .conf file, and turning on VESA emulation in Glidos. That way DOSBox should pipe the FMVs to Glidos's main window.

yeah turning VESA emulation ON kinda did it. the movies just look kinda ulgier and there is some stuttering when a movie starts. but oh well, better than nothing I guess

Reply 18 of 20, by Glidos

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megaman9511 wrote:

yeah turning VESA emulation ON kinda did it.

Ah good.

the movies just look kinda ulgier

Hmmm, uglier in what way? Glidos attempts to recapture their original resolution and then scale them without the black grill of lines. That should make them brighter and clearer, but it does mean the compression artifacts are more visible.

and there is some stuttering when a movie starts.

I've heard of other people having stuttering. Not sure why yet.

Reply 19 of 20, by megaman9511

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the music is also stuttering, and I hear short beeps. mostly at the title screen music