For PowerVR I do have a post with a confirmed PowerVR SGL list. It's small and it grows when I find native SGL games to run (and i'm on my own discovering this as I have doubt in the "ITS POWERVR!" games that just are Direct3D...)

Please edit your list a little:
Actua Soссer -> Actua Soccer / VR Soccer '96. 3dfx version is OEM only (I have the retail EU version, no glide support at all) and packed with Orchid Righteous 3d.
Fatal Racing -> Fatal Racing / Whiplash. The US version (Whiplash) can be patched to 3dfx. The UK/EU release (Fatal Racing) for the 3dfx is OEM only. Again bundled with Orchid Righteous 3d, IIRC.
EF 2000 -> EF 2000: Tactcom. Only the Tactcom version can be patched for 3dfx/Rendition. And the Tactcom wasn't freeware expansion.

Another game to check is UEFA Champions League '97.

Guys,

I think there is some confusion here. It's not about Glide or SGL at all. That's the point of the topic. It's about games that use the 3D hardware, but DON'T use any 3D APIs to communicate with them.

Nor is it about the games either being retail, OEM or requiring a patch to make them use the hardware, although I will specify this as it could be useful to others.

@leileilol - Have you tried this site to help you with your list?
http://web.archive.org/web/19980705030210/htt … ml/software.htm

I don't believe either Actua Soccer or Fatal Racing were supplied with the Orchid Righteous 3D. I know this because I have every boxed version that Orchid released:

Orchid Righteous 3D
Orchid Righteous 3D Bonus Pack
Orchid Righteous 3D Bonus Pack - Brand New & Sealed
Orchid Righteous 3D II 12MB SLI

Well, the "UEFA Champions League '97" 3dfx patch is 100% using direct voodoo1 calls. Tested with Ykhwong's Dosbox build.
Sorry, but I don't have the game itself.

The source for "Actua Soccer + Orchid Righteous 3d" info was the press release in the link.
There are homemade 3dfx patches for "Fatal Racing" and "VR Soccer '96", ripped from the oem versions. So, these two versions had been created and bundled.

Cd scan.

I think I once had a demo of the Champions League game but I'll see if I can get hold of the full version also.

Yeah, I read the press release, but somewhere along the way, I think the deal broke down.
Instead, Orchid partnered up with Activision and LucasArts to distribute Mechwarrior 2 and Jedi Knight respectively, with their Righteous 3D card.
I know for sure that Actua Soccer / VR Soccer 96 was distributed with the Creative Labs 3D Blaster PCI (Rendition Verite V1000).

Thanks for the info.

I've been thinking a bit about this thread and wonder what you'd really like to know. I doubt very much that any of the game developers wrote code to directly access the hardware. Even very early 3dfx games (to my knowledge) used glide, the only difference was that it was embedded (statically linked) directly in the executable. So the game developers used glide as a library and only the linker put all that together in the end. This was maybe also because they_didn't_know_how/was_not_possible_to create the ovl file as later versions did (the glide ovl is actually an OS/2 dll which dos4gw is able to load). But it is true that these games (at least the early 3dfx) are different from later software that used external libraries in the sense of functionality (require voodoo1) and the emulation/wrapper requirements 😀

Shouldn't it be possible to examine the executable for Glide.ovl/dll contents?

Yes, and here you are. I've been sitting on this for a while. Might need some adjusting. All you have to do is open the "3dfx version" in a hex-editor.

Statically Linked Glide Games with Versions
-------------------------------------------------
Actua Soccer (OEM) *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h2
Battle Arena Toshinden *Static Link - Glide version 2.03h2 (from patch)
Descent 2 "D2VOODOO" (officially supported 3DFX patch for Descent 2) - Glide(tm) Version 2.2 (from patch)**
- Descent II: Destination Quartzon (OEM) *Static Link - shipped w/ D2VOODOO
- Descent II: The Infinite Abyss *Static Link - shipped w/ D2VOODOO
EuroFighter 2000 [EF 2000] + TACTCOM + GFX+ *Static Link - Glide(tm) Version 2.2? (based on internet research)
EuroFighter 2000 v2.0 [EF 2000 v2.0] *Static Link - Glide(tm) Version 2.1 (from retail)
Fatal Racing (OEM) *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h2 (from patch)
Starfighter 3000 (OEM) *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h3 (from patch)
Tomb Raider *Static Link - Glide(tm) Version 2.1.1 (from patch)**
UEFA Champions League 97 *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h3 (from retail)
X-CAR: Experimental Racing *Static Link - Glide(tm) Version 2.1.1 (from demo)**
VR Soccer '96 *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h2 (from patch)
Whiplash *Static Link - Glide Version 2.03h2 (from patch)
**Dynamic Linked version also exists

All these need verified with the retail version 3dfx executable (if it didn't _only_ have a patch) to ensure it's the same version.

Of course, a few of these have patches to be dynamic linked (Descent 2, Tomb Raider, X-CAR, think that's it)

So: Original poster should change his post: the 3dfx games didn't directly access the hardware, they had statically linked glide dlls linked into their executables.

Dunno about the other Rendition/PowerVR but I expect it's the same.

The only 3dfx game/demo I know that accessed the card directly was this:
these supposedly access the Voodoo3 directly, bypassing Glide and video drivers. http://www.homepage.swissonline.ch/tinyasm/v3.htm
(There might be a demoscene thing too but I doubt it.)

In theory statically-linked binaries could be "shimmed" and have the DLL hacked out and replaced with calls to an external DLL. In practice... well, it might not be possible.

How about the unpatched Final Fantasy VII?

Jorpho wrote:

How about the unpatched Final Fantasy VII?

One of the early demos used Glide IIRC, don't think anything final did. But time has passed since last I looked into it.

Was any of the demos or the final release of Final Fantasy 7 (unpatched) both Glide AND DOS? Anyone?

Final Fantasy VII was always a Windows game and there were never any static linked Windows games. There were a demo that was Glide only, but on release it had changed to Direct3D.

That's what I thought! 😀

vetz wrote:

Final Fantasy VII was always a Windows game and there were never any static linked Windows games. There were a demo that was Glide only, but on release it had changed to Direct3D.

I thought the Direct3D support was only added by a patch ostensibly for Riva TNT cards. The original release had a very short list of cards that were supposedly officially supported (ref. http://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle. … 1&c=5&sc=0&so=0 ).

wasn't there something with 8 or 16 bit textures going on ? I bought the game at release and had to wait till the patch for it to work properly

All those cards listed can't run on any other API than Direct3D (except OpenGL, but that is highly unlikely). My guess to why some cards were left out was because they lack hardware features which the game required.

8-bit paletted texture support was the problem I think. D3D cards didn't always support it. Voodoo cards do.

I think so as well. Might even be on the box or one of the papers inside box or patch notes.

Registered /posted just for this topic b/c I'd LOVE to see something come out of this (hell, I'm even maybe willing to learn the process for helping contribute to this community if someone could point me to some initial tutorials for the language and everything... I do a lot of Java dev now, but I learned initially on C/C++).

Games that came with my 3D Blaster PCI/Rendition Verite V1000 card (that I'd LOVE to be able to play):
- Rebel Moon
- Flight Unlimited
- Battle Arena Toshinden

All of these were DOS-based games meant to show off the V1000 when it first came out in 96. Flight Unlimited was my fave of the 3. I'm pretty sure at least Flight Unlimited and BAT were direct-access games.

Is there any way to emulate the V1000/V2200 in DOSBox/anything at all (lol) to get these running again? It's fully possible I actually have one of these cards lying around the house somewhere and may be able to recreate a Win9x system, but I'd much rather just run a VM or DosBox style program instead on my main rig...

What does Glide do for Star Fighter 3000? The basic game doesn't have the quality of backgrounds or textures that the 3DO version has, but is roughly the same as the PS1 port (Saturn port too but it wasn't completed before release). Does Glide just filter the textures or what?