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Reply 20 of 28, by brostenen

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Nahkri wrote:

Maybe the board has automatic fan control and as long as the cpu is not hot enough it doesn't start.

In the bios, there is no settings specific regarding fan control and power management or temperature.
No settings at all. If it is related to some temperature control, then it is some automatic settings.
I do not remember computers from the late 90's, as having this type of settings as standard features.
They might have been on even more premium boards and server systems.

It is related to how I set the power off button settings however.
If i set it to "4 seconds" then the issue will come, if i put it to sleep that way and just cut power from the wall socket.
Then i need to do this thing of disconnecting atx-power cable on the mobo and pressing the power switch to drain all
the power from the system. Yet it rarely "fails" when the system setting is "instant off" and I push power button to turn
off the system. Not a big deal this problem I have, yet it is something I am qurious about, why exactly it happens.

As it was mentioned, it might be related to some power saving settings, wich is then again, might be related to the fan control.
It is old hardware, and it is fragile in a way as age progresses. A reason, to not overclocking the system. 😉

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Reply 21 of 28, by brostenen

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Ohh..... Just put two and two together. The "instant off" and "4 seconds" setting is part of the power management.
When I disable all power savings, and have the power button set to "4 seconds", then it way be were the problem is.
If I am correct. Then this is a "bug" in the bios, were I can trigger it, by having that settings.
So... Eighter no power management and "instant off". Or power management enabled and "4 seconds".
Mixing the settings might be a no-go on my system.

Would this might be the answer to my issue?

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Reply 22 of 28, by Mau1wurf1977

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If I remember correctly this board features some sort of hibernate feature. I also had times when it wouldn't POST so maybe we are missing something obvious 😀

I did flash the latest BIOS.

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Reply 23 of 28, by brostenen

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It does support hibernation of some sort. Yes. That is actually what the "instant off"/"4 seconds" is for. 😀
If it is set to 4 seconds and I push the power button, when the system is up.
Then it will go to sleep and resume when power button is pressed again.

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Reply 24 of 28, by Mau1wurf1977

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Yes. Back in the day this was quite the feature I believe...

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Reply 25 of 28, by brostenen

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Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Yes. Back in the day this was quite the feature I believe...

True... Having that sort of feature was a thing I saw as standard.
When socket 478 and DDR-1 memmory was "medium" pricerange around 2004/2006

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Reply 26 of 28, by archsan

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I remember I always set my PCs at that era to 4-second power-off. And yes, I can see the problem when you're cutting off the power while the system is in "suspend/stand-by" mode. I won't call that a bug though. 😀

Do you have the manual (or PDF) for your board's revision? I don't know how good/complete the documentation is but you should have it for reference anyway.

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Reply 27 of 28, by brostenen

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archsan wrote:

I remember I always set my PCs at that era to 4-second power-off. And yes, I can see the problem when you're cutting off the power while the system is in "suspend/stand-by" mode. I won't call that a bug though. 😀

Do you have the manual (or PDF) for your board's revision? I don't know how good/complete the documentation is but you should have it for reference anyway.

I have the manuals, wich can still be downloaded from A-Open site. :-p
Not any deep technical reference though. 🙁

Anyway.
I have dug out some of the hardware, wich this system shall recieve.
I am going to use the folowing stuff just to get a basic system up and running.

Celeron A, running at the standard 300mhz (no overclocking here)
64 Megabyte PC-100 memmory (going to upgrade in the future)
Matrox G400 Dual head 32mb AGP.
Realtek 8139c branded PCI-NIC.
Advansys 930/940 SCSI, also PCI.
Soundblaster LIVE 4620 with a 4660 expansion module.
Plextor SCSI CD-RW drive and a LG IDE DVD-Drive.

As I mentioned, this is only temporary, as well as the atx case is temporary.
I will search for some Voodoo-1 card, not Voodoo2, because the system is not going to be a
hardcore Win98 aera gaming machine. I might get a GForce 2 card instead.
If the choice is voodoo1, then the netcard should go, as I like to have the first PCI
slot underneath the AGP free. For the sake of cooling propperly. (never be too safe)
I will search for more memmory, probably go for a total of 256 megabyte.
I know this 16 megabyte limit for some dos games, yet I am only planning on doom,
duke and games like that. Plus some win98 games too.
And then the question of soundcard. Should I go for the live, or should I get a GUS/SB-ISA?
I might get a GUS, yet I really like the sound from the LIVE. As I think this is the first
Creative product wich surpassed the old GUS in terms of overall sound quality.
(yes, I do not like AWE32/64 compared to GUS, even the gold edition)
I am only going to play DOS games like: Doom (1 to ultimate), Pinball Fantasies and Duke3d.
SB-LIVE is probably the best choice anyway, in this case.

I think this is a decent project to run for, what do you guys think?

Update:
My project so far, need more hardware and a different case.
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Reply 28 of 28, by Mau1wurf1977

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Sounds like a great machine!

Voodoo is all it takes. Voodoo 2 would need a faster CPU anyway and many games require patching or other tricks to get going 😀 Voodoo 1 just works.

Hehe continuing with my Voodoo 2 project and I finished benchmarking Super Socket 7 and Socket 370 platform. Now comes Slot 1 and guess what motherboard I use 😀

Hooked everything up and it POSTed straight away with a PII 233. I use BIOS verion R2.59 from December 25 2002. I believe this is the latest BIOS.

I will Install Windows 98SE and Intel chipset drivers. Then drivers for the GeForce MX, Voodoo 2, then all the benchmarks and DirectX and then happy benching 😀

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