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Incoming - HUD details missing - Card or driver?

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First post, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-07-15, 08:15

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This is on a Windows 98 machine.

On a V3, everything looks nice. But no 32 bit colour mode:

Tried a FX5500 card and latest 80 something driver and getting this. The gog version on Windows 8.1 64 also looks like this:

The smoke from the guns looks blocky. The ground is missing. The HID elements are distorted.

Tried a TNT2 M64 with 40 something driver, that card works. Same driver, Quadro2 Pro (GF2 based card), getting the same poor graphics 🙁

When I am trying to fix the issue, disabling mip mapping solves it, but then the game looks terrible. Any ideas?

Goal is to play the game on a DVI capable card, 1024 x 788 32 bit colours, 60 fps and maybe some AA 😀

Also what's a good processor for this game? The game has some slowdowns on a K6-III+ 400 with TNT2 M64, but this actually helps a bit 😀 Not sure if it's the CPU, the GPU, or both.

EDIT: Matrox G550 and latest driver also works great! Fastest card I got working so far, and it has DVI 😀

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Reply 1 of 15, by teleguy

Posted on 2015-07-15, 11:20

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According to Dege it's because of Nvidia's colorkeying method.

dgVoodoo 2 for DirectX 11

Reply 2 of 15, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-07-15, 11:28

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teleguy wrote:
According to Dege it's because of Nvidia's colorkeying method.

dgVoodoo 2 for DirectX 11

Thanks, I'll read up on it. Noticed that GOG's screenshots have the same issue: http://static.gog.com/upload/images/2009/09/f … 792b425439b.jpg

Well what options are there if I want top performance, DVI and some AA? Matrox works, but doesn't seem to have AA. But the 550 is the "best" one I got. Parhelia maybe?

Or AMD! Hey, that's a reason to check out the red team 🤣

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Reply 3 of 15, by ZellSF

Posted on 2015-07-15, 18:19

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WineD3D works. No AA that way though.

Reply 4 of 15, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-07-15, 18:27

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ZellSF wrote:
WineD3D works. No AA that way though.

Cool! Never played around with it.

Didn't have much luck with a Radeon 9700 pro. In 2D the card works, but as soon as you launch a game the machine locks up 🤣

Matrox works great though and has decent enough performance.

A good candidate, but no DVI, is the V5. 32 bit rendering and supersampling AA should make this game look beautiful.

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Reply 5 of 15, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-07-16, 16:14

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Quick update.

Seeing that the ATI AGP card kept freezing my machine, I remembered that I got this cheap ATI card from eBay a while ago. I don't think I've ever used it.

It's a GeCube 9200SE 128MB PCI. And the card works! It picked up the drivers from the 9700 pro installation, and good to go. The driver has some quality settings, so I was able to play Incoming with a bit of AA 😀

I've got no idea at what level this card is. These SE cards are always a mystery.

Shame Incoming maxes out at 1024 x 768 though.

That card has a flaky DVI port though. The capture card doesn't take the signal. But it's a start 😀

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Reply 6 of 15, by teleguy

Posted on 2015-07-19, 16:36

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ZellSF wrote:
WineD3D works. No AA that way though.

If you set OffscreenRenderingMode to backbuffer with wined3dcfg.cpl (or by editing the registry manually) you can force AA from the driver controlpanel.
(Tested that on R9 290x and GTX 780, Windows 7 64 bit)

Reply 7 of 15, by ZellSF

Posted on 2015-07-21, 17:31

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teleguy wrote:
ZellSF wrote:
WineD3D works. No AA that way though.

If you set OffscreenRenderingMode to backbuffer with wined3dcfg.cpl (or by editing the registry manually) you can force AA from the driver controlpanel.
(Tested that on R9 290x and GTX 780, Windows 7 64 bit)

Doesn't seem to work on Win8.

Reply 8 of 15, by moknok

Posted on 2015-07-31, 15:36

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I received this game demo with the pc gamer cd way back in the 90's played the demo daily. graphics were ahead of it's time.

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Reply 9 of 15, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-07-31, 20:11

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I've created a Tweak Guide for the GOG version, but this also works with the retail CD.

Incoming Tweak Guide

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Reply 10 of 15, by Stretch

Posted on 2015-08-01, 22:33

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Is there a D3d wrapper that works on Win98SE for a Geforce FX5700?

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Reply 11 of 15, by PhilsComputerLab

Posted on 2015-08-01, 23:00

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Stretch wrote:
Is there a D3d wrapper that works on Win98SE for a Geforce FX5700?

I'd be surprised. On a W9x machine, best to use an ATI Radeon or Matrox based card. They render the game perfectly.

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Reply 12 of 15, by teleguy

Posted on 2015-08-02, 14:03

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Stretch wrote:
Is there a D3d wrapper that works on Win98SE for a Geforce FX5700?

Did you try Wined3d with the shader level reduced via wined3dcfg.cpl?

Reply 13 of 15, by mr_bigmouth_502

Posted on 2015-08-02, 14:43

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I've never had problems playing this on an ATI card. It's been a few years since I've really played it though.

Reply 14 of 15, by Stretch

Posted on 2015-08-02, 20:17

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teleguy wrote:
Stretch wrote:
Is there a D3d wrapper that works on Win98SE for a Geforce FX5700?

Did you try Wined3d with the shader level reduced via wined3dcfg.cpl?

I copied the wined3d dll files into the Incoming folder.

I renamed ddraw.dll to ddren.dll, and with a hex editor renamed ddraw.dll to ddren.dll in incoming.exe.

Incoming errors out with:

The ddren.dll file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:memcmp.

So, since I'm on Win98SE, ntdll.dll will not be present.

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Reply 15 of 15, by calvin

Posted on 2015-08-03, 13:33

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KernelEx will give you a subset of NT API functions, but I think we're barking down the wrong path here.

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