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Ok, I copied this from list from Stiletto's original Glide list at:
DOS Glide Games List

That version was to find all the DOS games that had Glide support. This one will be only for Windows games that had specific Windows-Glide support (as opposed to Direct 3D or OpenGL).

Will update/correct as time goes by...
Moderators or Admins are welcome to edit/add/delete entries so long as they post a change note in the post (just try to not go on memory.).

Lithtech Engine v1

QUAKE Engine
GLQuake
Kingpin
Hexen II

QUAKE II Engine
SIN

QUAKE III Engine
QUAKE III: Arena

lLithtech Engine v1

Unreal Engine
Unreal
Unreal Tournament

Other Engines
ABC Sports Indycar Racing
Actua Golf (Gremlin / Interplay)
Actua Ice Hockey
Actua Soccer 2
Adidas Power Soccer
Adrenix
Aerofly
Air Warrior 3
Alien Vs Predator
Andretti Racing
Apache Longbow
Ares Rising
Armor Command
Asteroids
Back to Baghdad
Barrage
Bass Masters Classic
Battle Arena Toshinden (Takara / Digital Dialect / Playmates)
Battle Arena Toshinden 2
Battlecruiser 3000AD (Interplay)
Battlezone
Beast Wars
Bleifuss Fun
Bounty Hunter
Brunswick Circuit Pro Bowling
Bugriders
Burnout Drag Racing (Bethesda)
Burnout: Player's Choice Edition (Bethesda)
Carmageddon 2
CART Precision Racing
Castrol Honda Superbike
Centipede
Colin McRae Rally
Creed
Croc
Cyberdome
Cybergladiators
Dark Rift
Daytona USA Deluxe
Dead Reckoning
Deathtrap Dungeon (Domark UK / Eidos Interactive)
Deer Avenger 3D
Descent 1 (homemade patch) ?
Descent 2 (Parallax / Interplay)
Descent Freespace
Descent 2: Destination Quartzon
DethKarz (Advanced D3D patch available)
Die By the Sword
Die Hard Trilogy
Dominant Species
Dreadnought (Ocean UK / Ocean)
Dreams To Reality (Cryo)
Drift Zone
Driver's Education
Dungeon Keeper
European Air War
Evil Knievel
Excalibur 2555AD
Extreme Assault
F1 Racing Simulation
F1 Simulation Pro
F-16 Fighting Falcon
F-16 Multirole Fighter
F-18 Hornet Korea
F-22 Air Dominance Fighter Glide/D3D
FA-18 Korea
Falcon 4.0
Fatal Abyss
Field & Stream: Trophy Buck
FIFA 2000
FIFA 98: The Road to The World Cup
FIFA 99
Fifth Element
Fighting Force
Final Fantasy VII (Early 3dfx-only demo)
Flesh Feast
Flight Unlimited 1 ?
Flight Unlimited 2
Flying Saucer
Forced Alliance
Formula 1
Formula 1 '97
Formula 1 Championship Edition
Formula 1 Racing Simulator
Forsaken
Fox Sports Golf
Frogger
Front Page Sports Ski Racing
Frontline Fighters
Future Cop
Galapagos
Game Net and Match
Gears n Guts (Gremlin / Interplay)
Gex 2: Enter the Gecko
Global Domination
Golgotha
GoMan
G-Police
Grand Prix Legends
Grand Touring Cars
Grim Fandango
Gruesome Castle
Gunmetal
Half-Life (Hybrid Q1/Q2 engine w/3dfx MiniGL)+D3D,OpenGL
Hangsim
Hardball 6
Hardwar
Head Hunter
Heavy Gear
Heavy Gear 2
Hedz
Hellbender
Heretic 2
Hidden and Dangerous
High Heat Baseball
Hind
House of the Dead
HyperBlade (Activision)
iF-18 Carrier Strike Fighter
iF-22 Persian Gulf
Ignition
iM1A2 Abrams Tank (Charybdis Enterprises, Inc. / Interactive Magic)
Incoming
Incubation
Incubation The Wilderness Missions
Independence Day
Independence War (I-War)
Indycar Racing: Indianapolis 500
International Rally Championship
Interstate �76 Gold
Israeli Air Force
Jane's AH-64D Longbow II
Jane's F/A-18 Precision Strike Fighter
Jane's F-15
Jet Fighter III
Jet Moto
Jet Moto 2
Jet Fighter III Platinum
Johnny Herbert's Grand Prix
Joint Strike Fighter
King's Quest: Mask of Eternity
Lands Of Lore: Guardians of Destiny
Lands of Lore 3
Lego Island
Longbow 2
Links LS 99
M.I.A.
M1 Tank Platoon 2 Glide/D3D
Mad Trax
Madden 98
Madden 99
Mageslayer
Manx TT Superbike
MechWarrior 2
MechWarrior 2 Expansion Pack: Ghost Bear's Legacy
MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries
Men in Black
MicroMachines V3
Microsoft Baseball 3D
Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator
Microsoft Flight Simulator '98
Mig 29 Fulcrum
Monaco Grand Prix Racing Simulation 2
Montezuma's Return
Mortal Kombat 4
Mortificator (Lobotomy / Playmates)
Moto Racer
Moto Racer 2
Moto Racer GP
Motocross Madness
Motorhead (Advanced D3D patch available)
Myth 2: SoulBlighter
Myth: The Fallen Lords
N.I.C.E. 2
NASCAR Racing 1999
NASCAR Racing 2
NBA Live 98
NBA Live 99
NCAA Football 99
Need for Speed 2
Need For Speed 2 SE
Need For Speed 3
Need For Speed 4
NFL Blitz
NFL Gameday 99
NHL 98
NHL 99
NHL Live 98
NHL Powerplay 98
NHRA Drag Racing
Nightmare Creatures
Nuclear Strike
ODT
Outlaws
Outwars
Overboard
P.C. Planet
Pandemonium
Panzer Commander
Plane Crazy
Populous the Beginning
PowerBoat Racing
Powerslide
Private Wars
Pro Pilot 99
Race To Galamax
Rainbow Six
Recoil
Red Baron 2
Redguard: The Elder Scroll Adventures (Bethesda) ?!
Redjack:Revenge of the Brethren
Redline Racer
Requiem
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Return Fire 2
Return to Krondor
Road Trip 2000
Robo Rumble
Roland Garros 98
S.C.A.R.S.
Sabre Ace
San Francisco Rush
Scorched Planet
Screamer Rally
Sega Tour Car Championship
Shipwreckers
Shogo
SimCopter
Skrap
Small Soldiers
Snow Wave Avalanche
Space Bunnies Must Die
Spearhead
Spec-Ops: US Army Rangers
Speed Busters
Speed Rally
Speedboat Attack
Speedy Zone
Star Trek The Next Generation: Klingon Honor Guard
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy
Star Wars: Jedi Knight
Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 3D
Star Wars: Shadows Of The Empire
Star Wars: X-Wing Collector Series
Star Wars: X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter
Star Wars: X-Wing Vs. Tie Fighter: Balance Of Power
Starsiege
Stratosphere
Streets of Sim City
Sub Culture
Super Touring
Superbike World Championship
Survival
SWIV 3D
Take No Prisoners
Tanarus
Team Apache
Terra Incognita
Terracide
Test Drive 4
Test Drive 5
Test Drive Off Road 2
Tex Murphy Overseer
The Divide Enemies Within
Thief
Tiger Shark
Tiger Woods 99
Time Warriors
TOCA: Touring Cars
TOCA2: Touring Cars 2
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider 3
Top Gun: Hornet's Nest
Top Gun: Falcon's Nest
Touring Car Championship
Trespasser
Tribes
Triple Play 99
Turok 2
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Twisted Metal 2
Ultimate Race Pro (Advanced D3D patch available)
Uprising
Uprising 2
US Navy Fighters 97
Vigilance
Viper Racing
Virtua Cop 2
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Squad
Virtua Squad 2
Virtual Pool 2
VR Baseball 2000
VR Soccer '96 (Gremlin / Interplay)
Warbirds
Wargames
Wargasm
Warhammer 2: Dark Omen
Warthog
Warzone 2100
Wild Ride
Wing Commander 5: Secret Ops
Wing Commander 5: Prophecy
Winter Race
WipeOut XL
World Cup 98
World War 2 Fighters
X Games Pro Boarder
X-Com Interceptor
Xidious (Eclipse Software Development / Eclipse Software Development)
Zone Raiders (Image Space Inc. / Virgin)

UPDATED 14OCT2002
Removed: Mig Alley,Flying Corps Gold (D3D) MinGl games reinstated/moved. Reinstated Final Fantasy VII with demo notation.

Sorted some titles to match their "engines"
Adjusted Lands of Lore
Removed: MDK,Shadow Warrior,Star Fighter 3000,Whiplash,X-Car (only DOS versions were enhanced)
Removed: Terminal Velocity,Screamer,Screamer2 DOS-Only

Reply 1 of 84, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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GoldFinger wrote:

I did not know there were so many Glide games.

Be aware that there a probably a bunch of older titles that are actually Direct3D/OpenGL (no specific Glide support) in the list. Sometimes you'll find data on a game saying it's "Glide" or "3dfx" when it actually support D3D or OGL.

Primary reason for that is the 3dfx card was the only card that performed 3D acceleration well at the time. Kind of like calling a soda a "Coke".

Reply 2 of 84, by Unregistered

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Nicht Sehr Gut wrote:

Be aware that there a probably a bunch of older titles that are actually Direct3D/OpenGL (no specific Glide support) in the list. Sometimes you'll find data on a game saying it's "Glide" or "3dfx" when it actually support D3D or OGL.

Primary reason for that is the 3dfx card was the only card that performed 3D acceleration well at the time. Kind of like calling a soda a "Coke".

By no means is that list complete, either. And it included DOS Glide games too (unless Nicht filtered all the known ones out...) I compiled it from 1. Moody's Voodoo2 FAQ, 2. Searching for "requires Glide", "requires 3dfx", and other miscellaneous derivations of those phrases using Google and Google Groups, which took a while, 3. an old archive of 3dfx.com archived by The Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org), which listed current and upcoming Windows or DOS games that used Glide. I still don't believe it to be complete. But sorting out from this list which ones were D3D/OpenGL only, and which ones were for DOS, and which ones are incorrect listings, and which ones did use Glide in DOS or Windows, what version of Glide they require (Glide2 or Glide3?), etc. - that still needs done. To my original lists too - please resurrect them and edit them as Nicht has in the past. By no means, consider it dead...

And consider all the games and demos made by lone programmers, screensavers, demos of games that were never published by computer game publishers, technology demos from 3dfx... there's quite a LOT I haven't listed.

I for one would like to see the original technology demos supported from 3dfx - as here: http://www.falconfly.de/artwork.htm
Like my old favorite, "Grand Bleu..." Nicht used to have done some testing of these.

As mentioned before, this may require the (illegal) acquisition of the Arcade Toolbox SDK - talk to the x3dfx guys, maybe they have it: http://x3dfx.da.ru/

Or it may be impossible if the demo actually wants to talk to the registers of the card, etc. Or if it wants to set SST settings in a batch file. Or something. I dunno. Anyhow, what better way to prove/improve compatibility of OpenGlide than running the original Voodoo1 and Voodoo2 demos? 😀

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Reply 4 of 84, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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Unregistered wrote:

By no means is that list complete, either. And it included DOS Glide games too (unless Nicht filtered all the known ones out...)

That's exactly what I did. We already have a GliDOS candidate thread. Like the title says, this is the "Glide-for-Windows game list"

I also removed titles that had no Glide support, IE: BLOOD2, which had software or Direct3D modes only.

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Reply 5 of 84, by Tanyrhiew

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FYI:

F22 Total Air War (also f22 ADF) by DID supports D3D. Judging from screen shots though, glide looked better.

Rowans's Mig Alley, Flying Corps Gold are D3D only.

M1 Abrahams 2 supported both glide & D3D.

I'm pretty sure that the 3d accelaeration for Flight Unlimted was for another chipset (rendition most likely).

Reply 12 of 84, by CraigG

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That list is too long, as a lot of those games had/have superior OpenGL/DirectX Support.

Ultimate race Pro
Motorhead
DethKarz

are just a few that spring to mind.

These don't need Glide support as they look and run better in DirectX.

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Reply 14 of 84, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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CraigG wrote:

That list is too long, as a lot of those games had/have superior OpenGL/DirectX Support.

Realize that some of this is going to come down to opinion.

A good example is this:
http://www.geocities.com/k_lupinsky/index.htm

I definitely prefer the Direct3D version, but Snover rightfully pointed out the bizarre lighting (entire forest is brightly and evenly lit).

For now, we need to stick with removing only titles that have no specific Glide support.

Will draw some kind of consensus about comparisons later.

Reply 15 of 84, by CraigG

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That link is for a really old D3D software rendering, NOT modern accelerated D3D rendering.

Realize that some of this is going to come down to opinion

Riiiighht, So you're telling me that , lets say the 3 i mentioned, look better in glide than they do in modern day D3D ?

Ultimate race Pro has a new-ish patch that enables me to play at 1280x960 with 4x FSAA and 64tap filtering.

Motorhead has a V3.1 unofficial patch that enables me to use a 1600x1200x32 res, 2x FSAA, and 32tap filtering, and looks awesome.

DethKarz - see above.

These are just a few examples of where GLide is NOT needed.
Same for Unreal.
Why anybody in their right mind would run Unreal in Glide is beyond me.
Unreal has had major OpenGL and D3D patches, with a newer OpenGL patch that enables S3TC and the use of Hi-res Textures from Unreal Tournament. Glide just pales in comparison.

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Reply 16 of 84, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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CraigG wrote:

That link is for a really old D3D software rendering, NOT modern accelerated D3D rendering.

Eh? Did you even look at the page? It has three pictures, left-to-right: Software Rendering, Glide, then Direct3D. The Direct3D rendering requires a 3D accelerator, so it's not "software".

Unless, of course, you have some "unofficial" patch that the rest of us aren't aware of...

If you go back and you still can't see them, then frames are "broken" on your browser.

Riiiighht, So you're telling me that , lets say the 3 i mentioned, look better in glide than they do in modern day D3D ?

I didn't say any such thing. The Mechwarrior example I gave you is what I said.

Ultimate race Pro has a new-ish patch...Motorhead has a V3.1 unofficial patch...

Good to hear.

These are just a few examples of where GLide is NOT needed.
Same for Unreal.Why anybody in their right mind would run Unreal in Glide is beyond me.

Actually, there a number of people who are having difficulties running these games outside of Glide. Apparently some cards (certain ATI and Matrox models) just don't work properly with Direct3D or OpenGL. In some cases quality and speed both went up.

Mind you, these are mostly people who have older 3D cards. While buying a new card is the best (and most obvious) solution, some people just don't have that as an option.
New Card=$, Glide Wrapper=Free

Reply 17 of 84, by CraigG

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But if these Matrox and ATI cards have trouble running these games in naitive OpenGL, what chance do they have in running them in a simulated Glide environment that relies heavily on OpenGL ?
If these cards have poor opengl drivers, then surely they will run into just as much trouble with OpenGlide ?

I re-visited that site, and although it may be D3D accelerated, it's still not a modern day D3D.
It is a D3D version from 1998, which would of been DirectX5.
And DX5 lacked many features, and I'll agree that if you can only get that version then Glide would be the better option.

But many of those games have DX6/7 versions now, and , like I said, look superior.

I would edit that list for you, and put comments next to them about patches and stuff. But I bet you'll edit my post and wipe it all 😜

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Reply 18 of 84, by Nicht Sehr Gut

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CraigG wrote:

But if these Matrox and ATI cards have trouble running these games in native OpenGL, what chance do they have in running them in a simulated Glide environment that relies heavily on OpenGL ?

*shrug* Ask them. My guess would be an either/or situation: might be OK with one, but not the other (Direct3D/Open GL).

It's a strange thing. The bizarre part is that it's apparently still going on for newer titles like "Return to Castle Wolfenstein"
(thanks to Zorbid for the link)
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8496

...still not a modern day D3D.
It is a D3D version from 1998, which would of been DirectX5.
And DX5 lacked many features, ...But many of those games have DX6/7 versions now, and , like I said, look superior.

If it's Direct-X5 it's not going to automatically look better under Direct-X 6,7,or 8. It would need a patch (or more likely a source port) to take advantage of the newer features of Direct-X 6/7/8.

Unless you know of some kind of patch/remake/whatever it's going to look the same.

...I would edit that list for you, and put comments next to them about patches and stuff. But I bet you'll edit my post and wipe it all

It's not like you typed it up yourself. You simply copied Stiletto's list and my long-winded reply to it. I had already started a list for this purpose and there wasn't much sense having duplicate threads.

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That list is too long, as a lot of those games had/have superior OpenGL/DirectX Support.

Listing which is superior is not the point of this list. Listing what games had Glide support in Windows, and which ones ADDITIONALLY supported other 3D API's somehow, is. (And removing the games which for sure did not support Glide is, as well.)

Here's the big point:
OpenGlide needs a list of games for testing. IF one game has a D3D patch or OpenGL patch as well as a Glide patch, or it could support them all, IT DOESN'T MATTER which is better.

Theoretically, we should be trying to get OpenGlide working with ALL Glide games, regardless of whether or not there is a better patch for certain games. The more games it supports, the more of a chance any fixes will carry over to any/all other Glide games. So yes, that means testing

Perhaps there should be a list of games that have such patches, or a list that says that using a certain 3d API with a certain game is better, but THIS LIST IS NOT THAT. Craig, I'm sorry bud, but you missed the point of this list completely. And perhaps others have as well.

Note that it is handy to know IF a different patch to a different 3D API exists, strictly for comparison testing. But with this list, we don't want to ask which is BETTER. Yes, no one in their right mind should be running Unreal in Glide anymore (as well as other games), but for testing a wrapper? As many functions should work as possible, and if Unreal implements a Glide function that's unimplemented, or provides a good testing environment for debugging another one, THAT's what's important. In other words, we're not in our "right minds" when we're testing a wrapper. Theoretically, EVERYTHING should work with it. So if some mutant wants to run Unreal in Glide, he COULD. Why he wants to or whether he's aware of the other 3D APIs is not important.

All these arguments are moot, although some of it is indeed useful information (such as Tanyrhiew's posts - thanks!)

Also note: it's best to double-check such info as Tanyrhiew's posts anyhow - if you didn't have a Voodoo card, perhaps you didn't know a Glide patch exists. *shrug*

- Stiletto