meljor wrote:There is no socket 7 with agp slot that isn't a ss7. 100mhz fsb and agp is what made it so superrrrr :lol:
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There is no socket 7 with agp slot that isn't a ss7. 100mhz fsb and agp is what made it so superrrrr 🤣
And all these boards support the 83mhz fsb setting for the cyrix as far as i know.
And yes, the cyrix will run on 100mhz fsb, my black-top mII-300 runs nicely on 2,5x 100 (will not go higher).
In the same fashion i wanted to build a system for one of my voodoo rush cards some time ago and build it together with other less common/popular choices: SiS chipset (Asus sp97), Quantum big foot 5.25 harddisk, 3dfx voodoo rush and a cyrix PR200+. Together with a not so desirable OPTi isa sound card it was ready to go 😎
The first Cyrix fell short as my p1-233mmx with voodoo1 felt MUCH smoother in old glide games, so i replaced it with the mII-300 (3x75mhz). It still didn't feel right and i gave up on the project as i would always prefer the mmx based system for these games.
The cyrix has the fpu of something like a p120 and you can see it in some games. But maybe a banshee is a much better choice and it will pick the cyrix up a bit? Certainly worth testing, and i also still need a system for a Banshee. I think most of that system is still in one piece so i can give it a shot pretty fast.
I also still need to build a system around a voodoo4, maybe i will go Athlon 1200mhz for that one (needs to sit between the two p3's in my sig).
The definition of Super Socket 7 was always vague to me (and I prefer to have my definitions accurate) because messing up accuracy due to sloppiness is what makes stupid mistakes exponentially more common), but my understanding was that it was about the 100MHz FSB. Not all ss7 boards feature a dedicated AGP port (mostly SiS and one late VIA chipset also I think) though I agree with you fully that AGP (even if its implementation was kinda lame compared to contemporary Intel boards) does make ss7 more super 😀
What voltage is your blacktop MII? I only got one and it had like 4 pins missing (they fell off 😵 ) but my 2.2v chips are more useful in most cases anyway (I'm well stocked 😎 ).
If my understanding is correct, 3DFX did somewhat help alleviate poor 3D performance in s7/ss7 systems (but don't quote me on this, it's debatable).
I'm not sure how good MII is for gaming, but when it came to SuperPi it wasn't actually that far behind P1mmx and Cyrix is kinda cool 😁
Phil has done some benchmarking using one or two Cyrix s7 chips recently.
If my understanding is correct, some games had patches which supposedly fixed some of the issues these games had with Cyrix chips but I never got around to actually read up about it. Swaaye may know more about this issue as he's the one that mentioned it to me years ago 😜
I've build several sA Thunderbird machines (and I basically used only ASUS boards for these 🤣) and it was a fun project 😀
Is your 1200 chip 100MHz FSB or 133MHz FSB? And which board are you planning to use? A7V133 was a very fun project and even though it was as troublesome as any old 486 can be, it was one heck of a fun ride when looking back at it 😁
A7V (which is basically the A7V133 without 133MHz FSB support) was really very similar in everything except CPU support.
I think 1200MHz would make a good match for V4. I should still have a single 1200MHz Tualatin (non-S! 😁) laying around which should handle that spec well enough.
But about Banshee, I'd probably match it with something of around 300MHz or so as I'd match anything faster with Voodoo 2 or perhaps a slower V3.