Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

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Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby cheesemaun » 2017-12-06 @ 03:13

Hi Everyone,

First post so excuse the intro, love the forums, been following them for a while. Finally took the plunge to pick up an MT-32 and an SC-55. I'm in Canada and snatched them up immediately when I saw 2 separate Kijji ads, asking 75$ for the MT-32 and 100$ for the SC-55.

MT-32 is the 1st model without headphones and 1.07 firmware, while the SC-55 is a later model (S/N started with DD) and is a 2.0 firmware. I purchased a Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI and Everything works great in dosbox or scumm. (Mixer is on the way for Christmas lol)


My question is: Has anyone ever plugged in a midi keyboard or controller into their Roland device?

What I am noticing now is that newer entry level Midi keyboards only come with a USB connection. I was just wondering if it was possible to do something like:

Keyboard USB --> PC ---> Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI Adapter ----> Roland MT-32 or SC-55?

I've seen some videos of a guy using an older keyboard with a 5 pin MIDI out right into the 5 PIN Midi of a MT-32 and it did work, but I'm unsure if a a modern PC could grab the USB midi signal and pass it along. (might need some software)

A huge thanks to all the info from everyone on this forum and a big shout out to Phils Computer Lab for the great setup video and keropi for some posts that assisted with checking the firmware, and figuring out that one of the SC-55 caps was not leaking but it was just glue lol

Thanks,
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby Kamerat » 2017-12-06 @ 03:48

cheesemaun wrote:What I am noticing now is that newer entry level Midi keyboards only come with a USB connection. I was just wondering if it was possible to do something like:

Keyboard USB --> PC ---> Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI Adapter ----> Roland MT-32 or SC-55?

You can use FSMP or MIDI-OX as a bridge on the PC.
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby cheesemaun » 2017-12-06 @ 03:58

Thanks Kamerat -I'll give it a go as soon as I snag something around the Holidays.

I'm not a Musician, but seems like it might be fun. At the very least, I should be able to clear out a room real quick ;)
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby Falcosoft » 2017-12-06 @ 04:12

Yes, It's possible on a PC. You only need a software that routes midi input (your keyboard) to midi out (your synths).
I have already used my Midi Player(FSMP) to connect a USB midi keyboard to Roland SC-VA (VSTi plugin) and using a real Roland HW is no different in this respect.
http://falcosoft.hu/softwares.html#midiplayer
Open device settings (gear like icon) and enable Midi in then select your keyboard as midi input. Then select the midi out port where your Roland HW is connected press OK and you are done. Something like in this Phil's Computer Lab video, but you should choose a different output:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk9S1bkRS8&t=9m5s
You can also set Master Volume/Balance of your HW if you select 'Use SysEx for Volume/Balance' option in the same dialog. Setting GS reverb/chorus effect types/levels are also supported (only on your SC-55).
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby cheesemaun » 2017-12-06 @ 04:24

Awesome thanks Falcosoft - I was just skimming through some vids myself but that youtube link is perfect.
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby yawetaG » 2017-12-06 @ 07:06

A lot of the older MIDI controllers (with MIDI out and if necessary USB) are of good quality and can be picked up for low amounts second hand, e.g. Roland PC-series or Yamaha CBX-K-series. Furthermore, many synthesizers and digital pianos with MIDI in and out can also be used as a MIDI master keyboard, so they too are worth considering.
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby cheesemaun » 2017-12-12 @ 12:44

Thanks yawetaG, that's something I never considered and is a good alternative to all the "new" stuff and lots of the old stuff is pure 5 pin Midi out.

I ended up with a Behringer 1002 mixer as an early gift - I can now play space quest 4 with sound effects/music/speech all perfectly mixed into the same speakers.

Not sure if anyone else is following this thread (as it's somewhat solved already) but I will share any other findings after the holidays when I snag a Midi Controller on the cheap.

Thanks again everyone.
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby yawetaG » 2017-12-12 @ 13:20

Be a bit careful with Behringer gear - it tends to be rather hit or miss, with some stuff being pretty high quality for the price and other impressively shitty (and some of their products are outright vaporware). In my home country it has the nickname "Tehringer" ("tering" = Dutch vernacular for tuberculosis, also popular insult)...
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby cheesemaun » 2017-12-15 @ 03:57

yawetaG wrote:Be a bit careful with Behringer gear - it tends to be rather hit or miss, with some stuff being pretty high quality for the price and other impressively shitty (and some of their products are outright vaporware). In my home country it has the nickname "Tehringer" ("tering" = Dutch vernacular for tuberculosis, also popular insult)...


Good to know - I was also worried about this as I had heard mixed reviews. Many people mentioned that the mixers had alot of extra noise/buzz but so far the unit I received has no extra noise.

I think I should be okay with just this mixer, so no more "Tehringer" gear lol
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Re: Midi Keyboard/Controller with USB to a Roland MT-32/SC-55

Postby yawetaG » 2017-12-15 @ 09:14

cheesemaun wrote:
yawetaG wrote:Be a bit careful with Behringer gear - it tends to be rather hit or miss, with some stuff being pretty high quality for the price and other impressively shitty (and some of their products are outright vaporware). In my home country it has the nickname "Tehringer" ("tering" = Dutch vernacular for tuberculosis, also popular insult)...


Good to know - I was also worried about this as I had heard mixed reviews. Many people mentioned that the mixers had alot of extra noise/buzz but so far the unit I received has no extra noise.


That's the whole problem, some models can be fine, while other models within the same product range can be absolute crap. Basically you don't know what you're buying when buying new Behringer gear unless you wait for others toy buy the same gear and review it. Many other manufacturers are a bit more consistent quality-wise.

I think I should be okay with just this mixer, so no more "Tehringer" gear lol


Just google model numbers and you should be fine - actually, I would recommend that for any second-hand gear, some stuff is absolute gold and other is just meh.
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