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First post, by Bobolaf

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I am wondering what modern games the NetBurst architecture can actually handle so am thinking of grabbing a faster graphics card to give it a try. I would like a card that is easily fast enough to keep things like a overclocked Pentium EE 965, Duel Xeon 5080 and Xeon MP busy with out spending the earth. I know I would like a Nvidia card as I fancy giving hardware Physx in Windows a go and the Nvidia cards have good Linux drivers so easy to play with that too. It must also be a PCI-e based card and length and power draw are no issue. Can anyone recommend what cards are worth looking out for that will fit the bill? Thanks

Reply 1 of 10, by Ozzuneoj

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Older power hungry cards that people don't usually look for would be good cheap options. GTX 2xx series are usually very cheap. Even a GTX 4xx or 5xx series can be found quite cheaply and now has DX12 support. Just make sure you have a beefy power supply and lots of air flow.

If you want to go more modern or more efficient, Kepler was an massive leap forward in efficiency, so any GTX 6xx series would allow you to play any game that such systems could handle with a lot less noise and power draw.... But probably cost more.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 2 of 10, by Skyscraper

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Ozzuneoj wrote:

Older power hungry cards that people don't usually look for would be good cheap options. GTX 2xx series are usually very cheap. Even a GTX 4xx or 5xx series can be found quite cheaply and now has DX12 support. Just make sure you have a beefy power supply and lots of air flow.

If you want to go more modern or more efficient, Kepler was an massive leap forward in efficiency, so any GTX 6xx series would allow you to play any game that such systems could handle with a lot less noise and power draw.... But probably cost more.

Perhaps a bit overkill but the Geforce GTX 285 is my video card of choice for everything PCI-E + Windows XP, at least if the system dosnt have to be 100% period correct. If one is considering a GTX 2xx card why not use the best (single GPU) one as they are all cheap! It's not much of a power hog either unless playing fur mark! Still a decent 12v heavy 500+ watt PSU wont hurt if overclocking an i965 EE is on the agenda.

I have never really found any use for anything faster than a GTX 285 when it comes to DX9 stuff in Windows XP.

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Reply 4 of 10, by Ozzuneoj

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I was shooting high on the GPU because he mentioned running dual Xeon 5080s, which are 3.73Ghz dual core CPUs with 1066Mhz FSB. Two of them would likely run anything a modern system would (though slowly). Single threaded performance will be very low, sure, but not useless. I wouldn't bother running anything less than a Geforce 9800 GT and would recommend running a GTX 285 or newer, since they're cheap and far more powerful. A Geforce 6 series (from 2004) is too weak for anything modern, and a 7 series is only a minor improvement. There are a lot of modern games that need DirectX11 or 12 level hardware, so that would make me lean toward the best cheap Fermi or Kepler card you could find.

If the goal is to see how far you can go with netburst running modern software, then get the newest GPU that fits into your budget.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 5 of 10, by ODwilly

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Geforce 750ti or Radeon HD7750. You could cover a lot of ground with lots of performance with little wattage.

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Reply 6 of 10, by agent_x007

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Skyscraper wrote:

I have never really found any use for anything faster than a GTX 285 when it comes to DX9 stuff in Windows XP.

Clearly you didn't searched enough 😉

Crysis DX9 3840:2160 (Downsampling to 1920:1080) @ CSAA 16x : LINK
Try to do that on GTX 285 😁

With Dual Xeon 5080 I would go for GTX 960 or 1050 Ti (if budget permits).

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Reply 7 of 10, by Skyscraper

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agent_x007 wrote:
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Skyscraper wrote:

I have never really found any use for anything faster than a GTX 285 when it comes to DX9 stuff in Windows XP.

Clearly you didn't searched enough 😉

Crysis DX9 3840:2160 (Downsampling to 1920:1080) @ CSAA 16x : LINK
Try to do that on GTX 285 😁

With Dual Xeon 5080 I would go for GTX 960 or 1050 Ti (if budget permits).

If I would like to play Crysis in 4k I could use my main system! 😀

Note that my best Doom 3 score with the overclocked i7 2600k @5.2 was made with a slightly overclocked GTX 580 in XP. As my score got beaten by Steves overclocked Ivy Bridge E + GTX 680 I will probably use one of my GTX 780 Ti the next time I try to take back the throne 😉. If I can be bothered at all that is as the Gigabyte Z68 G1.Sniper 2 motherboard I used cant overclock Sandy Bridge with the UEFI and cant run Ivy Bridge with the BIOS. I could get an i7 3770k to replace the 3770@4.1 that sits on the board at the moment but the bug infested board wont support voltage control at all with Ivy Bridge.

For the reason mentioned above I feel that Sandy Bridge is the way to go for benchmarks but downgrading from UEFI to BIOS just to do a bench is a bit of a pain...a risky one. With the BIOS I doubt there exist a better motherboard for overclocking Sandy Bridge though, under all that silly bling there are some really solid components. I could get a newer system that could beat Steves score (I dont own anything newer than Socket 1155) but whats the fun in that? As my i7 2600k did 5200 MHz with ease air cooled (5000 MHz 24/7 stable) I bet it could hit 5400 or even 5500 MHz for benchmarks with cold water from the tap. 😀

On topic.

For me the Geforce GTX 285 is the best video card there is for DX9 gaming in XP. It can use old and proven drivers and it can run any DX9 game at 1920*1080 or 1920*1200, most of them* maxed out with decent AA settings.

*Not Crysis, play Crysis using a modern system!

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Reply 8 of 10, by Dani-01

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I use a 550Ti in my XP rig (Core2 Duo E8400) and I still find it to be a bit overkill. Anything newer can run on a regular modern rig anyway. 🤣
For Netburst, the cheap nV options could be something in the 450,460,550,650,740 range, or there is always the option of going for something stronger if you're using a higher resolution.

Reply 9 of 10, by nforce4max

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For low budget and without care of being anything period correct going something modern is a good choice as the card should be able to handle more of the load sparing the knee capped cpu from doing more than it could handle.

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Reply 10 of 10, by harddrivespin

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nforce4max wrote:

For low budget and without care of being anything period correct going something modern is a good choice as the card should be able to handle more of the load sparing the knee capped cpu from doing more than it could handle.

Not too modern though- like a geforce 460 or 560.