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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby cyclone3d » 2018-2-09 @ 06:26

Ozzuneoj wrote:Wow, that sounds like an awesome DOS laptop. Hopefully the Rage card doesn't give you any trouble. I have a feeling ATI's poor DOS support is blown out of proportion a bit by the famous DOS vga compatibility chart that shows lots of red boxes and not many green ones for all ATI cards, but I haven't had much experience with them myself.


The XG29 is definitely awesome for DOS - at least for sound. I haven't had a chance to actually run anything on it yet - just working on getting Windows set up before I start actually playing with it.

The 141A seems like it will be awesome as well. Not too worried about the video in DOS, but I guess I'll find out when I get it.. and if it works.

What are the chances that a couple of the few laptops that have sweet, sweet DOS sound support pop up for sale for cheap at the same time.. especially when I just happen to decide to look for a good DOS laptop with real mode sound support built in?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kamerat » 2018-2-09 @ 06:47

CelGen wrote:Slowly.
It's one of those CPU's that have amazing power management but the clock speed does NOT compare to similar chips at the same speed. Windows 98se fully patched seems a bit sluggish but windows 2000 crawls.

Found some benches, ran over by a VIA C3 Samuel 2. :dead:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby cyclone3d » 2018-2-09 @ 07:05

Kamerat wrote:
CelGen wrote:Slowly.
It's one of those CPU's that have amazing power management but the clock speed does NOT compare to similar chips at the same speed. Windows 98se fully patched seems a bit sluggish but windows 2000 crawls.

Found some benches, ran over by a VIA C3 Samuel 2. :dead:


Nice. Is that going to matter much at all for DOS gaming though? It is still going to be plenty fast for pretty much any DOS game and Windows game I would want to play on it.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Kamerat » 2018-2-09 @ 07:16

cyclone3d wrote:Nice. Is that going to matter much at all for DOS gaming though? It is still going to be plenty fast for pretty much any DOS game and Windows game I would want to play on it.

No, and since the vertical resolution of the monitor is only 480 you probably won't run them in more than 640x480 anyway.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2018-2-09 @ 08:43

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Bj0rn83 wrote:I have a slot 1 233mmx processor


Were there MMX CPUs in Slot 1 packaging?

All of them. :wink:


Ok so technically its a Pentium II 233.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby jheronimus » 2018-2-09 @ 09:22

Bad news: I got burned on that Voodoo 5. First time in over two years in this hobby I've made an advance payment and of course it turned out to be a scam. And here I was thinking that old hardware is too niche of a thing to try and con people.

Good news: got this awesome package one week early.

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The contents are:

- Gravis Ultrasound PNP
- ASUS P/I-XP6NP5 — with Pentium Pro, heatsink and four EDO RAM sticks
- M396F motherboard — AMD 386SX@40 without any cache. Battery seems intact
- NESXA rev 0.7 — also AMD 386SX@40, with cache and four SIMM RAM sticks
- Realtek ISA videocard

With that I finally got my first GUS. The Socket 8 board is awesome, too. I really like this platform and ASUS boards are particularly cool to me. This board even comes with Mediabus slot.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby badmojo » 2018-2-09 @ 10:28

jheronimus wrote:Bad news: I got burned on that Voodoo 5.


That sucks, sorry to hear that. I don't know how people sleep at night after scamming a someone, but I guess they can justify it somehow.

Nice work on your other pickups though!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby derSammler » 2018-2-09 @ 11:14

jheronimus wrote:Bad news: I got burned on that Voodoo 5. First time in over two years in this hobby I've made an advance payment and of course it turned out to be a scam.

Speaking about that, I had to buy three Voodoo2 cards in the last weeks to get one that was actually working. The first two were sold as perfectly working, but apparently came from a recycler. They had severe damage all over the card and were of course not working. Fortunately, laws in Germany are quite strikt in such cases and I got my money back. But still, this is just absolutely sickening.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby chose007 » 2018-2-09 @ 13:52

Another black friday at me, again got luck about soundcards which are not my favourite target ... but they are welcome to my storage :-D

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of course some vga cards Intel 740 8MB
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G256 by Asus
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and "few" boards like Asus 2x slot1 for Rimms
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Asus slot A
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MSI KT333
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and some ramms
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby dionb » 2018-2-09 @ 13:55


Not very well per MHz, but if you measure per Watt it's a different story. Best performance per Watt until the introduction of the Pentium M (which was what killed Transmeta stone dead).

Last week I also got my hands on a marginally faster 733MHz Crusoe system (see a few pages back) - basically on a miniITX motherboard, so if there's benchmarking to be done we can compare crazy sub notebook optimalisations vs a more normal config. Nonetheless I suspect my K6-3+ will beat the pants off it (if I ever receive my SS7 motherboard that is...). Downside of my system is no HW sound chip. It's VIA AC'97, so maybe SB legacy support (haven't checked in BIOS yet), but AC'97 runs of the CPU, so even if it does work, it's going to slow down everything to the point that 533MHz Vaio might outperform it in games with sound enabled.

Also bought something today:
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A DFI VG-3000 16b ISA VGA card with Oak OTI037C chip, dual DB15 and DB9 connectors, 8b ISA support, backward compatibility all the way down - EGA/CGA/Hercules/MDA. Oh, and a nearly pristine manual. Only thing missing is the driver floppy.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bjwil1991 » 2018-2-09 @ 13:55

@ chose007 The card at the top, is that an Aztech Sound Galaxy BX?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby jaZz_KCS » 2018-2-09 @ 13:57

@ chose007

Please use smaller sized images or preferrably thumbnails when posting several images. Linking images in fullsize excessively like this is not appropriate.

PS: Nice haul, though :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby jheronimus » 2018-2-09 @ 13:58

derSammler wrote:Speaking about that, I had to buy three Voodoo2 cards in the last weeks to get one that was actually working. The first two were sold as perfectly working, but apparently came from a recycler. They had severe damage all over the card and were of course not working. Fortunately, laws in Germany are quite strikt in such cases and I got my money back. But still, this is just absolutely sickening.


Yeah, unfortunately, in Russia most online classifieds don't process transactions and don't offer protection for the buyer because users don't want to pay additional fees. We've had our clone of eBay, but it failed, so similar services remain rather niche.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Cyrix200+ » 2018-2-09 @ 14:02

jaZz_KCS wrote:@ chose007

Please use smaller sized images or preferrably thumbnails when posting several images. Linking images in fullsize excessively like this is not appropriate.

PS: Nice haul, though :)


The images fit my sceen just fine?

Nice haul!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby dionb » 2018-2-09 @ 14:03

chose007 wrote:Another black friday at me, again got luck about soundcards which are not my favourite target ... but they are welcome to my storage :-D

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and "few" boards like Asus 2x slot1 for Rimms
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Nice haul :)

1000 dollar question as far as I'm concerned is if the P3C-D works. I had at least four or five of them (both retail and HP OEM) and not one even POSTed. Not sure what was up there, but it wasn't my CPUs (which were perfectly happy in a P2B-DS or any other dual board) or my RIMMs (which worked fine in an Intel VC820). And yes, I did use the special CT-RIMM which 3-RIMM i820 boards require in the third slot (and you have in yours too). So let us know if yours does actually boot!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby chose007 » 2018-2-09 @ 14:06

bjwil1991 wrote:@ chose007 The card at the top, is that an Aztech Sound Galaxy BX?

Back side of this card said nothing more ... maybe specialist like Batyra can tell you more.

jaZz_KCS wrote:...


Seriously nothing bad ... but its year 2018 not 1998 and 1024x768 is big? Who want clicking handly for every photo by thumbnails.

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dionb wrote:1000 dollar question as far as I'm concerned is if the P3C-D works. I had at least four or five of them (both retail and HP OEM) and not one even POSTed. Not sure what was up there, but it wasn't my CPUs (which were perfectly happy in a P2B-DS or any other dual board) or my RIMMs (which worked fine in an Intel VC820). And yes, I did use the special CT-RIMM which 3-RIMM i820 boards require in the third slot (and you have in yours too). So let us know if yours does actually boot!


ok will test it now ... for free, save 1000 dollars for better things :-D
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby blurks » 2018-2-09 @ 14:21

jheronimus wrote:We've had our clone of eBay, but it failed, so similar services remain rather niche.

Really? What do you guys use in Russia then? I can't believe such a huge country with a big population like yours doesn't has a popular, functional online auction platform.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby OldCat » 2018-2-09 @ 14:22

chose007 wrote:MSI KT333
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I had this one in early 2002!

*cries tears of nostalgia*
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bjwil1991 » 2018-2-09 @ 14:26

chose007 wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:@ chose007 The card at the top, is that an Aztech Sound Galaxy BX?

Back side of this card said nothing more ... maybe specialist like Batyra can tell you more.

Found info about the card: http://www.amoretro.de/2012/05/aztech-s ... 8-bit.html It's in Dutch, however.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby keropi » 2018-2-09 @ 14:27

dionb wrote:[...]

Also bought something today:

A DFI VG-3000 16b ISA VGA card with Oak OTI037C chip, dual DB15 and DB9 connectors, 8b ISA support, backward compatibility all the way down - EGA/CGA/Hercules/MDA. Oh, and a nearly pristine manual. Only thing missing is the driver floppy.


Nice card, kudos!
I have the "rev.B" VG-3000 , it's a good card for older systems:

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