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Reply 2100 of 4586, by liqmat

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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump.

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Reply 2101 of 4586, by PcBytes

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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump. […]
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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump.

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I remember seeing this on Reddit a few months ago or so.

Not even a ton of WD40 would save that thing.

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Reply 2102 of 4586, by appiah4

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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump. […]
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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump.

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Reply 2103 of 4586, by luckybob

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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump. […]
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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump.

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Reply 2104 of 4586, by xjas

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Snagged this Geforce 3 with its manual & CDs intact out of a system that was put out for recycling today. Dodgy fan replacement aside, it's in great shape. 😀

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Yes, the CDs and manual were packed in the bottom of the case, along with motherboard manuals, warranty cards, etc. I felt a little bad about leaving the rest of the system behind, but aside from the GF3 it was a completely bare-bones 478 P4, and it had already been stripped of HDDs and RAM. I hate pulling apart an intact retro system that somebody took care to keep together over the years though. I suppose if somebody else wants to resurrect it they can grab one of the Radeon 9200SEs that were also in the pile.

Didn't have a GF3 before now. This actually filled an empty slot in the little "collection" I didn't know I was creating until I sorted out my cards the other day. For your enjoyment, here's an example of almost every generation high-ish-end Nvidia card from the AGP era (excepting the Riva, TNT1, and GeForce 1), mostly acquired by accident:

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From left to right: Diamond V770 TNT2 Ultra, cheeky GeForce 2 MX400 subbing in for a GF1, Asus GF2 GTS (CIB with original 3D shutter glasses 😉 ), Asus GF3 Ti200, GF4 Ti4200 (had a Ledtek 4600 but it went in my PowerMac G4 which I gave to a friend), Quadro FX1000 (~GF FX5800), BFG 6800GT OC, evga 7600GT.

The counterpart "crappy card" collection looks a little bit smaller and has more gaps.

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TNT2 M64 Vanta, GF2 MX200, GF4 MX4000 PCI (I actually like this card), Asus FX5200, another Asus FX5200, and some kind of 6200"LE" that is so completely unbranded I had to put it in a system to figure out what it was. 😜

I could have extended this into the 8000 & 9000 series, as I have an 8500GT and a 9800GTX, but the 8500 would go with the crap cards and the 9800 would go with the good ones, so continuity'd be broken anyway and I couldn't be bothered to take the 8500 out of a system.

BTW the 6000-series fascinates me. In the same "generation" you could get low-budget turdbuckets that 6200LE which look like something straight out of 1997, and dual-slot box-coolered monsters with PCIe and SLI that pretty much mark the start of modern high-end cards.

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Reply 2105 of 4586, by jxalex

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Still not as bad as what Vcfed.org member Connorthecarguy's friend found at the dump.

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strange what things we can find. Yep, what is trash for one is valuable for another.

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Reply 2106 of 4586, by Standard Def Steve

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I found another one of these excellent, 5-volt heavy Zalman PSUs in a dumpster-bound s478 machine. These are heavy units, and have active PFC to boot! They even have a 3.3v auxiliary connector, making them perfect for early BX/LX/PPro boards. Needless to say, I kept the PSU and dumped the rest of the machine.

The internals all seem to be fine, with healthy looking caps and stable output voltages. At 40 amps, the 5v rail is massive. The 15A +12v rail is weak by today's standards, but keep in mind that this PSU was built in 2002. Athlon XPs were everywhere, and even the fastest video cards drew most of their current from the 5v rail. About the only 12v-heavy part you could buy in 2002 was the Pentium 4, and 15a would've been plenty to power that single component.

I've already got one of these Zalman PSUs powering my Tualatin build, but it's definitely nice to have an extra! If a dual Socket A board ever comes my way, I'll be set!

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P6 chip. Triple the speed of the Pentium.
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Reply 2107 of 4586, by xjas

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^^ Nice, I grab anything decent with a good 5V rail if I see it. -5V is a bonus too. My dual P3 board uses that P2 connector.

Here's another neat pickup from me. I found this very early PC CD-ROM drive in with a lot of other stuff I picked up a few days ago:

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Yes, it really is that yellow. The bottom half is painted metal but the inside under the lid is the same plastic & shows the original color. Lovely. I cleaned the hell out of it before taking these pics, naturally, but besides the discolouration it's otherwise in really nice shape.

Not sure if it works yet, it does power on and tries to spin up, but I took the SCSI card out of my main PC temporarily and haven't gotten around to trying it on anything else. I hope it does, would be a great match for my 386 if so.

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Reply 2108 of 4586, by tannerstevo

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Not really a dumpster find, but my brother brought these home from work. They were going to be thrown away.

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Don't know much about them.

Reply 2109 of 4586, by SW-SSG

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^The two from the right appear to have Antec Earthwatts Green PSU replacements for their HP OEM power supplies. These are relatively high-quality 80 Plus Bronze units manufactured by Delta, and (assuming they do still work) would be worth keeping around as spares.

That Nvidia graphics card looks like a Quadro FX 560, but the other two boxes will have something else. Meanwhile, those M-Audio sound cards look interesting...

Reply 2110 of 4586, by yawetaG

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^ Meanwhile, those M-Audio sound cards look interesting...

They are semi-pro recording cards. I'd like to Musician's Friend who have a product page for it, but since they're one of those shitheaded US companies that block EU users because they're against privacy protection 😠 , you'll have to do with the manual hosted elsewhere: https://www.manualslib.com/manual/516403/M-Au … -Delta-410.html.

Reply 2111 of 4586, by tannerstevo

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I asked my brother about them, and he said they were used as pre-show projectors in the theater where he works.
There was 14 of them, he kept three and the other eleven went into the trash compactor. 😢

Reply 2112 of 4586, by torindkflt

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Not found, but I had a customer bring me a Gateway DX430S from 2007 for disposal. Haven't tried powering it on yet and I'm not in a position to currently open it up and see what's inside (they left it at my non-computer-related retail work where I don't have the time or space to do computer work), so I don't know yet what specifically it has inside it or if it even works. According to Professor Google it should have a C2D E4400, but the case has a "Pentium D" sticker on the front. Google also says it should have 1GB RAM and a 250GB HDD, but again I can't say for sure until I either open it up or power it on later (which I'll have to do anyway to DBAN the drive, assuming it powers on). The previous owner did add a video card to replace the onboard video, I'll have to see what model it is later.

The system is a fair bit too new for my collecting interest, although I might potentially at the very least keep the case if it is standard ATX.

UPDATE: Got a chance to bring it home on my lunch break. I still haven't powered it on yet, but I did open it up because something seemed a little odd about that add-on video card. Turns out it's a PCI card, not PCI-E or AGP (the motherboard DOES have a PCI-E slot). Curious to know how this would have compared to the onboard video in regards to performance.

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Also got a picture of the front and inside of the case (back too, but only allowed four attachments per post.

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Haven't taken a close look at the motherboard yet to determine model, but I did see the Intel logo silkscreened on it near the CPU socket, so it's certainly an Intel OEM board of some sort. Quick glance through the case looks like it should be standard ATX all throughout, but admittedly I have yet to closely scrutinize the front panel connectors in those regards. Hopefully when I get a chance to power it on (unknown when that'll be, got other systems on my workbench currently), I'll get a better idea of what exactly it has in it.

Reply 2113 of 4586, by SW-SSG

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^The motherboard may be an OEM version of the Intel DG965OT. The G965 chipset's GMA X3000 IGP is newer (supports DX9 & SM3.0) and probably faster than that PCI Radeon 7000; the presence of said Radeon might imply that the IGP on that particular MB is flaky/broken and the user had no need for fast graphics.

The case does look like standard micro-ATX, though the front-panel LED/switch connectors may be consolidated into a single plug-in block like with a lot of these OEM pre-builts.

Reply 2114 of 4586, by xjas

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One more post and then back to work. 😀 Grabbed this [EDIT: Not a Gateway] tower a few days ago because it looked cool & was in great shape. It has this neat tinted perspex front cover that slides up and down - so early 2000s. (The optical drives weren't installed in it, I just shoved them in there to make carrying everything out to the car easier. Unfortunately it was already missing the drive bay covers.)

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Inside there's a ton of room, which is why I picked it up. It came with a P4/1.7 on an Asus P4S333 - kind of a cool board based on the SiS 591 chipset with a universal AGP slot that could run a Voodoo3-5.

The video card was long gone; that's my PCI Rage in there for testing. That said, it didn't POST, and I have better plans for the case, so out it all came.

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^^ this PSU has to be one of the shonkiest, flimsiest pieces of junk I've ever seen, weighing in at WELL under 1kg. Wow.

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Want to know exactly what model CPU it was? The thermal paste was SO old & hard, the lettering on the lid left this imprint in it.

I might try the board on a known-good PSU just to see if the piece of junk in there was the problem, but the whole setup is in my "to give away" box anyway. I already have a known-working P4S333/VM (the "short" version) and I'm getting out of Socket 478 in general. I have plans for a much more interesting build that needs a big, roomy case, so hopefully this will do.

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Reply 2115 of 4586, by PcBytes

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One more post and then back to work. 😀 Grabbed this Gateway tower a few days ago because it looked cool & was in great shape. It has this neat tinted perspex front cover that slides up and down - so early 2000s. (The optical drives weren't installed in it, I just shoved them in there to make carrying everything out to the car easier. Unfortunately it was already missing the drive bay covers.)

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Inside there's a ton of room, which is why I picked it up. It came with a P4/1.7 on an Asus P4S333 - kind of a cool board based on the SiS 591 chipset with a universal AGP slot that could run a Voodoo3-5.

The video card was long gone; that's my PCI Rage in there for testing. That said, it didn't POST, and I have better plans for the case, so out it all came.

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^^ this PSU has to be one of the shonkiest, flimsiest pieces of junk I've ever seen, weighing in at WELL under 1kg. Wow.

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Want to know exactly what model CPU it was? The thermal paste was SO old & hard, the lettering on the lid left this imprint in it.

I might try the board on a known-good PSU just to see if the piece of junk in there was the problem, but the whole setup is in my "to give away" box anyway. I already have a known-working P4S333/VM (the "short" version) and I'm getting out of Socket 478 in general. I have plans for a much more interesting build that needs a big, roomy case, so hopefully this will do.

That P4 is a 1.7GHz Willamette. I have a few of those, not sure what would they be worth considering there's Northwood (and N-Wood HT) and Prescott.

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Reply 2116 of 4586, by Strahssis

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One more post and then back to work. 😀 Grabbed this Gateway tower a few days ago because it looked cool & was in great shape. It has this neat tinted perspex front cover that slides up and down - so early 2000s. (The optical drives weren't installed in it, I just shoved them in there to make carrying everything out to the car easier. Unfortunately it was already missing the drive bay covers.)

I really love cases from this time peroid; all those roundings, special colors and odd shapes. PC-case designers used to be a lot more creative compared to nowadays; most modern cases are so boring! 😜

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Reply 2117 of 4586, by xjas

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I really love cases from this time peroid; all those roundings, special colors and odd shapes. PC-case designers used to be a lot more creative compared to nowadays; most modern cases are so boring! 😜

Some of the new stuff that's out there is pretty creative & interesting, but there was this all-pervasive "tactical" (yick) design language a few years ago I can't stand. It's like the designers looked at the handle of a stupid glock and decided to slop that over everything. Half the cases from 2008-2016 ended up looking like a fake gun case some 40-year-old meathead would put in the back of his jacked-up pickup truck.

Thankfully that seems to be going away now, but because I live on an island stuck several years in the past, it's still everywhere here.

Back to the big [Edit: not a] Gateway, turns out the board I was intending to go in it is still too big. WTF, I thought I measured this? Apparently I'm too incompetent to use a tape measure correctly. Damnit.

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The 3.5" cage is removable, and I could get the 5.25" cage out by drilling out four rivets from the front & cut it down to fit the board (it's also held in by screws from the top, so I can put it back in easily once that's done), but I dunno if I feel like modifying it that much.

There's also the matter of the PSU, this board sticks up a good 2cm past the I/O shield which butts into the PSU area on most cases. I was planning to use a 1U rack PSU to get around that, but that's still an ugly bodge into a nice case.

Worst freaking albatross in my parts stash, I regret ever buying it. 😜

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Reply 2118 of 4586, by liqmat

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Oh I've got the case for you. I have six tall server cases from the PPro haul that would fit that very nicely. Also has a nice HDD cage in it. Now, just getting it to you at an affordable rate.

Reply 2119 of 4586, by luckybob

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Oh I've got the case for you. I have six tall server cases from the PPro haul that would fit that very nicely. Also has a nice HDD cage in it. Now, just getting it to you at an affordable rate.

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