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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby oeuvre » 2019-1-13 @ 13:56

Infinitely better... doesn't feel mushy.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby detritus olentus » 2019-1-13 @ 19:10

Found boxed visual basic 5.0 (not that I have any idea how to use it) and this cool handheld usb trigger mouse.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Windows9566 » 2019-1-14 @ 04:50

Finally found a IO shield for my Intel Advanced/ML board

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2019-1-14 @ 05:01

Those are "standard" ATX shields.

its just the standard that came before THE STANDARD. Think USB 1.0
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Windows9566 » 2019-1-14 @ 07:03

luckybob wrote:Those are "standard" ATX shields.

its just the standard that came before THE STANDARD. Think USB 1.0


I thought the standard IO shield was like

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2019-1-14 @ 09:54

The key word I used was BEFORE. The one Windows9566 linked was the very first version. USB killed that version.

You only ever see the first version on early Pentium motherboards (and Pentium Pro).
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Thermalwrong » 2019-1-14 @ 13:07

The new old stock 486 motherboards from Ukraine arrived today :D

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The box was a bit ripped but they were well packed and it's weird seeing a 486 motherboard look this new & clean. The one on the left I already have and bought solely to have a read of and digitise the manual, since that's not online in its complete form anywhere.

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Now to see if I can get PS/2 mouse working on the FIC 486 VIP IO2 board by just adding the headers. I spent all that time trying to fix that Asus PVI-486SP3 board and now a good source of equally capable boards has appeared :D
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2019-1-14 @ 14:38

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Thanks to the kind souls on Vogons who gave me the heads up to the eBay seller selling these blank back plates for real cheap!

Does anyone happen to have the blueprints for an AT backplate? What diameter hole, at what location etc? Also, what do I cut a backplate with? Some Dremel drill pit would do?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby oeuvre » 2019-1-14 @ 14:44

use a plasma cutter
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby liqmat » 2019-1-14 @ 14:49

appiah4 wrote:Image Image

Thanks to the kind souls on Vogons who gave me the heads up to the eBay seller selling these blank back plates for real cheap!

Does anyone happen to have the blueprints for an AT backplate? What diameter hole, at what location etc? Also, what do I cut a backplate with? Some Dremel drill pit would do?

I have a bunch of new AT backplates for the motherboards I have. I could scan one in for you or measure. Let me know.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2019-1-14 @ 14:56

oeuvre wrote:use a plasma cutter


I was hoping it would be the same diameter as my lightsaber.

liqmat wrote:I have a bunch of new AT backplates for the motherboards I have. I could scan one in for you or measure. Let me know.


Hey I would definitely appreciate that if you have the time and all.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby PcBytes » 2019-1-14 @ 15:05

Thermalwrong wrote:The new old stock 486 motherboards from Ukraine arrived today :D

486-motherboards-appear.jpg


The box was a bit ripped but they were well packed and it's weird seeing a 486 motherboard look this new & clean. The one on the left I already have and bought solely to have a read of and digitise the manual, since that's not online in its complete form anywhere.

486-VIP-IO2.jpg


Now to see if I can get PS/2 mouse working on the FIC 486 VIP IO2 board by just adding the headers. I spent all that time trying to fix that Asus PVI-486SP3 board and now a good source of equally capable boards has appeared :D

That barrel battery in a spot where a CR2032 battery should be is by far the most stupid thing I've seen today.

Who thought that would be an great idea? Especially since these are notorious to leak and kill traces.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby liqmat » 2019-1-14 @ 15:06

appiah4 wrote:
oeuvre wrote:use a plasma cutter


I was hoping it would be the same diameter as my lightsaber.

liqmat wrote:I have a bunch of new AT backplates for the motherboards I have. I could scan one in for you or measure. Let me know.


Hey I would definitely appreciate that if you have the time and all.

No worries, this way you could at least print yourself a paper template. I would send you one, but I don't even have enough for my motherboards unfortunately.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2019-1-14 @ 15:08

liqmat wrote:No worries, this way you could at least print yourself a paper template. I would send you one, but I don't even have enough for my motherboards unfortunately.


No need, punching a hole in these shouldn't be too hard, I just need to know where and how big :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Thermalwrong » 2019-1-14 @ 15:08

At least they're easy to desolder and replace with a regular CR2032 holder :)

The barrel battery on the MS-4143 is juuuust about to leak, just like my other one - that's getting removed and replaced this evening.


For the ATX to AT backplate, I measured that a couple of weeks ago while making some up from similar blank ATX plates, try these dimensions:
Looking from the back of the case:
Going from the edge of the ATX case area, so ignoring the area to hold the backplate in place (but not the raised edge)

Top: 24mm
Bottom: 7mm
Left: 110mm
Right: 33mm

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Munx » 2019-1-14 @ 15:56

Windows9566 wrote:Finally found a IO shield for my Intel Advanced/ML board


Congrats on obtaining unobtainium. My P200 Build has been sitting shield-less for years...

EDIT: a quick search for IRDrive on ebay and I found one finally!
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby liqmat » 2019-1-14 @ 16:05

appiah4 wrote:Hey I would definitely appreciate that if you have the time and all.

For what it's worth.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby SW-SSG » 2019-1-14 @ 20:16

Thermalwrong wrote:The new old stock 486 motherboards from Ukraine arrived today :D

Oh neat, I was watching the listing for the FIC for a while but ultimately decided against it. Nice to see that it was the real deal...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2019-1-14 @ 20:54

liqmat wrote:
appiah4 wrote:Hey I would definitely appreciate that if you have the time and all.

For what it's worth.

AT Plate.jpg


Much appreciated, thank you.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby GigAHerZ » 2019-1-15 @ 21:15

Just got the Asus P/1-P55T2P4.

It has 256KB of on board cache and has COAST slot for additional 256KB of cache... and i apparently had one of these just laying around from decades ago!

Nice board, lots of voltage regulation options, fsb and multiplier setting etc.

Downsides are that it doesn't accept SDRAM and it has dallas chip. Otherwise it could replace my Pentium machine's motherboard. (I'm keeping 386, 486 and P1, one of each for myself and everything excess goes to trading and to museums)

Got it from auction site, probably it would have went to landfill, but i was able to save it for few bucks. :) (And it also had 2x8MB 72pin ram, never hurts...)
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