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Reply 100 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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Done. Well, not tested yet. Need to check everything when I'm a bit less tired and then test it 😀

It was a lot of fun!

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Reply 102 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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root42 wrote:

Looks fabulous! 😀

Your video was very useful, especially for the orientation of the tantalum cap and the bending of the pot legs. Bracket is also a perfect fit, thanks!

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Reply 103 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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It works! Monkey Island and Prince of Persia produce music!

I could only test with modern headphones, and the card is a bit noisy on that. Picks up a lot of sound from the computer itself.

Prince of Persia sounds a bit ... off? I tried it on a 486 sx 25MHz (with turbo on and off makes no difference). Will have to try another Game Blaster compatible card to verify it's just the way it is, or something is wrong. Would not expect MI to work and PoP not though... Might be speed related!

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Reply 104 of 137, by root42

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These cards are usually very noisy with headphones. The Adlib is similar.

Sierra games have a lot of CMS support as well. Good for testing. You can also try the CMS music player.

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Reply 105 of 137, by Scali

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Cyrix200+ wrote:

Prince of Persia sounds a bit ... off? I tried it on a 486 sx 25MHz (with turbo on and off makes no difference). Will have to try another Game Blaster compatible card to verify it's just the way it is, or something is wrong. Would not expect MI to work and PoP not though... Might be speed related!

I've heard other people report that PoP has speed issues with CMS/GameBlaster (even real cards). The game's code appears to be buggy.

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Reply 106 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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Well, this is it. Go home MUS... You're drunk 😜

Also Monkey Island to prove it works

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Reply 107 of 137, by keropi

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yeah the card is really noisy, it's a design flaw IMHO

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Reply 108 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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keropi wrote:

yeah the card is really noisy, it's a design flaw IMHO

With (period-correct) speakers it's okay. Still some HDD seek noise and a weird fart when shutting down the system, but I remember those from my youth 😀

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Reply 109 of 137, by Scali

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keropi wrote:

yeah the card is really noisy, it's a design flaw IMHO

Sounds exactly like my SB Pro 2, so it's probably a good clone of the original Creative design 😀

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Reply 110 of 137, by keropi

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I had a real gameblaster I don't remember any of these parasites on mine ... could be my ICs as well - no idea.
I removed an amp from a cheap isa soundcard and used it on the MUS-1099 (in order to replace the first one that was behaving weird) but this also did not help. For example running my fingers on the amp pins produces more parasites. Could be another semi-dead amp but I did not investigate further , for now I am done with it.

I know this is a free open source design, maybe that is the length the creator wanted to bother with it - totally understandable - don't mean to sound ungrateful.
Maybe another more modern amp or some more filtering would go a long way. Anyways it is what it is, better than nothing 😀

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Reply 111 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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Cyrix200+ wrote:

It works! Monkey Island and Prince of Persia produce music!

I could only test with modern headphones, and the card is a bit noisy on that. Picks up a lot of sound from the computer itself.

Prince of Persia sounds a bit ... off? I tried it on a 486 sx 25MHz (with turbo on and off makes no difference). Will have to try another Game Blaster compatible card to verify it's just the way it is, or something is wrong. Would not expect MI to work and PoP not though... Might be speed related!

About Prince of Persia sounding weird, this is mentioned here as well: Re: SB 2.0 CT1350 CMS chips dumped.

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Reply 112 of 137, by root42

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I have now ONE spare MUS1099. If anyone is interested PM me for details.

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Reply 113 of 137, by matze79

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I build the Card, but it sounds weird 😀

had no time until now.

i had some things not at hand and replaced it, for example i had no 0.15uf Ceramic so i used foil..
But i don`t expect this the Problem.

It sounds like wrong clock..

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Reply 114 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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What machine are you testing in? That software might be speed sensitive. I know Prince of Persia sounds wrong on CMS at speeds higher than XT.

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Reply 115 of 137, by matze79

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Nec V20 4,77Mhz or 7.68Mhz or 9.54Mhz switchable.

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Reply 116 of 137, by Cyrix200+

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That should be just fine. Another problem might be defective SAA1099 chip(s). You could swap them to see if it makes a difference.

Do you have other software to test it? Prince of Persia (1) (but not all 1.xx versions work with Game Blaster) or Monkey Island (1).

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Reply 117 of 137, by matze79

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Ok Prince of Persia and Monkey Island also sounds weird.

I checked all Logic ICs and they are fine, there are no solder bridges or something..

i had no resistor network at hand so i build mine myself, it looks like this:

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this should be fine 😒

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