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Reply 20 of 27, by Jo22

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You can also try hard disk compression (DoubleSpace/DriveSpace etc)..
That way, I got WfW 3.11 to install on a 16MiB DOM once (that DOM was preinstalled in one of my thin clients before I replacet it with a CF adapter).

Anyway, the original Win95 was about 40MiB in since (remember, it came on 1,44MB floppies, too!).
I remember installing it on old Conner drives somewhen in the 1990s (386 PCs).

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Reply 21 of 27, by rmay635703

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derSammler wrote on 2020-05-29, 07:07:
rmay635703 wrote on 2020-05-29, 03:18:

Good luck getting *any* software running on that, as you'll have hundreds of missing DLLs. That's just a (nice) proof-of-concept, but not a usable OS.

98lite is perfectly useable but as you add in things (like networking) the OS increases in size, same with directX. I use a 98lite box all the time, never had a missing DLL but did have it demand the 98cd to install things causing bloat.

For those who want networking but want to keep a small size you need to use “other”networking options like you would with Windows 3.1.

Reply 23 of 27, by henk717

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I had the same issue on my t5710 and it was a no-go even on 256mb of storage. By the time I had enough installed for it to run as intended I would be out of storage. Most of these thinclients have 44-pin ide flash modules from apacer so for me buying a $10 2GB module was the better solution.

Reply 24 of 27, by matcarfer

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henk717 wrote on 2020-06-02, 01:19:

I had the same issue on my t5710 and it was a no-go even on 256mb of storage. By the time I had enough installed for it to run as intended I would be out of storage. Most of these thinclients have 44-pin ide flash modules from apacer so for me buying a $10 2GB module was the better solution.

I already have an ide 44 to sd adapter, but its male, as the motherboard connector, and I cant find a female female 44 ide cable anywhere in my country, and aliexpress is canceling me my orders. All in all, it seems i wont have the cable for a long time.

Reply 25 of 27, by marxveix

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Clean minimal install @ Win95a=26mb (maybe even less possible).
Clean minimal install @ Win95b=39mb (maybe even less possible).

Sorry to pick this up, but Wn95a or Win95b is possible @ 64mb. I used fdd version of Windows 95a or b and @ Win95b or OSR2 it is better to remove some unneeded junk from setup first to get more space, but without it, it was also possible. Without drvspace i did get Win95b + directx 6.1 to install, but no space was left for all dri vers. I used then drvspace3 compression that is available to install with Windows 95 plus and Win95b has it without windows 95 plus. Now i have Win95b +Directx7a + all drivers installed and still free space left. Games are installed to usb 2.0 stick or from network storage. I thin with compression it is maybe possible to install Win95a to a 32mb hdd with all drivers and older directx, 64mb has plenty storage space, i have hp t5300 and hp t5520.

Long story short, use compression to fit all needed stuff, mainly directx + all drivers. After compression 64mb hdd became ~119mb hard drive.

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Reply 26 of 27, by matcarfer

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thanks! after all this time I managed to buy ide 44 cable and got a sd card ide adaptor and all good. then i tried win98qi and runs really great, so all issues sorted. i even got a 1gb dom pata drive so it runs good.

Reply 27 of 27, by Harry Potter

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Try compressing the hard drive using DriveSpace or Stacker. 😀 I used to do that on an old Win98SE computer with a 2.1 working GB hard drive. I also used a lot of compressed floppies and Zip100 disks there. I also tried AppZip on it, but AppZip didn't work. So, I used my own batch files with 7Zip to do the job. They keep the programs compressed and, when needed, decompress the programs, allow me to use them then, when I'm finished, recompress the files and delete the uncompressed files. The problem with DriveSpace and Stacker is that they only work on FAT12 and 16 drives, so they probably won't work on your new hard drive without reformatting. You can use compressed Zip disks and floppies to hold some programs. BTW, UPX is a utility that compresses executables. You can try it on some of your .exe files. Google it and try it out!

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