Nice, score, Via chipsets for AMD stuff isn't that bad.
Perfer them over messing with Nforces, and there stability quirks in 9x.

I finally got it on Vista!
I had to reinstall it on my C drive (didn't work on second hdd)
and set it to use Windows 98 compatibility mode. No DLL fixes needed

Core 2 Duo E6700 OC to 3GHZ and Radeon 6670
I am sure it is vsync locked so I will try to see if I can force it off

1
23DMark Project:
3	3DMark Build Version: 200
4	Date: 7/25/2014
5	Time: 5:20:37 PM
6	File Name: 
7	Project Name:My Project
8	Comments: 
9
10Project Settings (Template):
11	Rendering Platform: Internal (AMD Radeon HD 6670)
12	Resolution: 1280*1024
13	Color Depth: 32-bit Color
14	CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
15	Z-Buffer: 24-bit
16	Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
17	Refresh Rate: 61 Hz
18	Looping: Disabled
19	Texture Format: 32-bit, 8888 RGBA
20	Run Tests: Once
21	Title Screen: Shown
22
23Test Results:
24	3DMark Result : 6,194 3DMarks
25	Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 50,722 CPU 3DMarks
26	Rasterizer Score : 12,843 3DRasterMarks
27	Game 1 - Race: 62.5 FPS
28	Game 2 - First Person: 61.4 FPS
29	Fill Rate : 786.1 MTexels/s
30	Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 1,997.7 MTexels/s
31	2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 345.1 FPS
32	4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 311.4 FPS
33	8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 260.7 FPS
34	16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 203.5 FPS
35	32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 164.6 FPS
36	Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 192.6 FPS
37	Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 225.7 FPS
38	Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 292.9 FPS
39	Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 99.6 %
40	Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100.0 %
41	Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 96.1 %
42	Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: 94.7 %
43	6 Pixel/individual: 11,279.4 KPolygons/s
44	6 Pixel/strips: 42,907.9 KPolygons/s
45	25 Pixel/individual: 7,588.8 KPolygons/s
46	25 Pixel/strips: 12,140.8 KPolygons/s
47	50 Pixel/individual: 4,515.0 KPolygons/s
48	50 Pixel/strips: 6,075.9 KPolygons/s
49	250 Pixel/individual: 1,440.8 KPolygons/s
50	250 Pixel/strips: 1,599.6 KPolygons/s
51	1000 Pixel/individual: 423.1 KPolygons/s
52	1000 Pixel/strips: 439.8 KPolygons/s
53
54System:
55	Windows Version: Windows 4, Build 2222
56	DirectX Version: 4.07.00.0700
57	Bios Version: Not detected
58	Bios Date: Not detected
59	Total Physical Memory: 256 MB
60	Free Physical Memory: 225 MB

61
62Processor:
63	Processor Type: Unknown
64	Processor Speed: 3005 MHz
65	Processor Caps:  MMX SSE
66	L1 Cache Size: None
67	L2 Cache Size: None
68
69Desktop:
70	2D Display Adapter Name: @oem59.inf,%amd6758.6%;AMD Radeon HD 6670
71	2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 12-6-2013
72	Monitor Name: Not detected
73	Monitor Driver Date: Not detected
74	Desktop Resolution: 1920*1080
75	Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color
76
773D Accelerator:
78	Name: AMD Radeon HD 6670
79	Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
80	Driver Version: 0.00.00.0000
81	Total Video Memory On Card: 1,049,204 KB
82	Total Texture Memory: 2,333,948 KB
83	Bus: AGP
84
85	Supported Features:
86		16-bit Rendering
87		32-bit Rendering
88		Point Sampling
89		Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
90		Bilinear Filtering
91		Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
92		Trilinear Filtering
93		Anisotropic Filtering
94		Specular Gouraud Shading
95		Vertex Fox
96		Range-Based Fog
97		Table Fog
98		W-Fog
99		Sub-Pixel Accuracy
100		Alpha Blending
101		Addivitive Alpha Blending
102		Multiplicative Alpha Blending
103		Vertex Alpha Blending
104		Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending
105		S3 Texture Compression
106
107	Supported 3D Display Modes:
108		640*480, 16bit color
109		800*600, 16bit color
110		1024*768, 16bit color
111		1152*864, 16bit color
112		1280*720, 16bit color
113		1280*768, 16bit color
114		1280*800, 16bit color
115		1280*960, 16bit color
116		1280*1024, 16bit color
117		640*480, 32bit color
118		800*600, 32bit color
119		1024*768, 32bit color
120		1152*864, 32bit color
121		1280*720, 32bit color
122		1280*768, 32bit color
123		1280*800, 32bit color
124		1280*960, 32bit color
125		1280*1024, 32bit color
126
127	Supported Texture Formats:
128		15-bit, 555 RGB
129		16-bit, 5551 RGBA
130		16-bit, 4444 RGBA
131		16-bit, 565 RGB
132		24-bit, 888 RGB
133		32-bit, 8888 RGBA
134

Yea v-sync is locked smeezekitty on that report.
Try ati tray tools or d3d overrider.
But, you should be able to force it off with the normal catalyst control panel.
I was able to on vista + a x800.

No such luck so far.
The drivers are arrogant about Vsync

CCC set to force off does nothing
RadeonPRO set to force off does nothing
D3DOverrider doesn't start
ATItray tools errors out "Can not initialize ATIPDLXX library!"

AlphaWing wrote:

Nice, score, Via chipsets for AMD stuff isn't that bad.
Perfer them over messing with Nforces, and there stability quirks in 9x.

I agree! Had very good experiences with VIA chipsets and Athlon XP / Sempron processors.

For later S754 and S939 chips however Nvidia made some decent chipsets. I remember having these uATX motherboards from Asrock. They all had Nvidia chipset with integreated graphics: http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=754

I swear by them. Rock solid motherboards.

AlphaWing wrote:

Nice, score, Via chipsets for AMD stuff isn't that bad.
Perfer them over messing with Nforces, and there stability quirks in 9x.

overall its not bad at all , although there 2 issues Ive found

1)there is no option to disable the L1/2 caches, which makes slowing down the PC for some older DOS games a bit difficult (although mysteriously some games like King's Quest 6 which needed slowdown before, run fine now, so who knows)

2) there seems to be some sort of problem, where randomly when turning on the computer, Win98 will not go into the desktop , Windows itself loads fine , but the desktop won't show up (basically just giving me just the wallpaper background) , its not frozen or anything, it kind of just stays there . Restarting the PC usually works and it loads fine afterwards, so Im not sure whats going on

V3 3500 with a PIII-S 1.4 GHz

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 26/07/2014
Time: 18:50:37
Project Name:ASUS P65UP5 + C-P6ND
Comments: DUAL PII OVERDRIVE
RADEON 9000 64MB PCI
1 GB EDO RAM 60NS
40 GB IDE HDD
WINDOWS XP SP3

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (RADEON 9000 SERIES)
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: Intel(r) processor
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 2.031 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 3.080 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 4.928 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 22,2 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 18,7 FPS
Fill Rate : 282,8 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 754,7 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 334,9 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 218,6 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 137,1 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 86,2 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 47,8 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 132,3 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 167,7 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 271,3 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
6 Pixel/individual: N/A
6 Pixel/strips: N/A
25 Pixel/individual: N/A
25 Pixel/strips: N/A
50 Pixel/individual: N/A
50 Pixel/strips: N/A
250 Pixel/individual: N/A
250 Pixel/strips: N/A
1000 Pixel/individual: N/A
1000 Pixel/strips: N/A

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4, Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.07.00.0700
Bios Version: Not detected
Bios Date: Not detected
Total Physical Memory: 1.024 MB
Free Physical Memory: 759 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Intel Pentium II
Processor Speed: 340 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX
L1 Cache Size: 32 KB
L2 Cache Size: 512 KB

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: RADEON 9000 SERIES
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 5-3-2006
Monitor Name: Not detected
Monitor Driver Date: Not detected
Desktop Resolution: 1280*1024
Desktop Color Depth: 16-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: RADEON 9000 SERIES
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 0.00.00.0000
Total Video Memory On Card: 63.352 KB
Total Texture Memory: 60.792 KB
Bus: PCI

3DMark Project:
3DMark Build Version: 200
Date: 26/07/2014
Time: 23:09:22
Project Name:TYAN S2895 THUNDER K8WE
Comments: DUAL OPTERON 885
NVIDIA QUADRO FX4600 768MB
16 GB DDR400 ECC
SAMSUNG 840 SSD 256 GB
WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE X64 SP1

Project Settings (Template):
Rendering Platform: Internal (NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600)
Resolution: 800*600
Color Depth: 16-bit Color
CPU Optimization: AMD 3DNow!(tm)
Z-Buffer: 16-bit
Frame Buffer: Triple buffering
Refresh Rate: VSync Off
Looping: Disabled
Texture Format: 16-bit, 4444 RGBA
Run Tests: Once
Title Screen: Shown

Test Results:
3DMark Result : 18.705 3DMarks
Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 61.461 CPU 3DMarks
Rasterizer Score : 42.511 3DRasterMarks
Game 1 - Race: 226,6 FPS
Game 2 - First Person: 159,3 FPS
Fill Rate : 3.647,6 MTexels/s
Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 5.597,8 MTexels/s
2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 3.112,9 FPS
4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 2.261,0 FPS
8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 1.424,5 FPS
16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 756,2 FPS
32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 400,4 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 1.105,7 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 1.339,8 FPS
Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 1.900,2 FPS
Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: N/A
6 Pixel/individual: N/A
6 Pixel/strips: N/A
25 Pixel/individual: N/A
25 Pixel/strips: N/A
50 Pixel/individual: N/A
50 Pixel/strips: N/A
250 Pixel/individual: N/A
250 Pixel/strips: N/A
1000 Pixel/individual: N/A
1000 Pixel/strips: N/A

System:
Windows Version: Windows 4, Build 2222
DirectX Version: 4.07.00.0700
Bios Version: Not detected
Bios Date: Not detected
Total Physical Memory: 256 MB
Free Physical Memory: 225 MB

Processor:
Processor Type: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 885
Processor Speed: 2607 MHz
Processor Caps: MMX 3DNOW SSE
L1 Cache Size: 128 KB
L2 Cache Size: 1.024 KB

Desktop:
2D Display Adapter Name: @oem18.inf,%nvidia_dev.019e%;NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600
2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 3-4-2014
Monitor Name: Not detected
Monitor Driver Date: Not detected
Desktop Resolution: 1920*1200
Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color

3D Accelerator:
Name: NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600
Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
Driver Version: 0.00.00.0000
Total Video Memory On Card: 757.736 KB
Total Texture Memory: 224.016 KB
Bus: AGP

Anybody have any luck with newer AMD cards? I cannot get it to run without vsync

Single buffering overrides vsync but the screen tearing is HORRIBLE

1
2Project Settings (Template):
3	Rendering Platform: Internal (AMD Radeon HD 6670)
4	Resolution: 1280*1024
5	Color Depth: 32-bit Color
6	CPU Optimization: Intel(r) Pentium(r) III
7	Z-Buffer: 16-bit
8	Frame Buffer: Single buffering
9	Refresh Rate: VSync Off
10	Looping: Disabled
11	Texture Format: 32-bit, 8888 RGBA
12	Run Tests: Once
13	Title Screen: Shown
14
15Test Results:
16	3DMark Result : 11,977 3DMarks
17	Synthetic CPU 3D Speed : 72,863 CPU 3DMarks
18	Rasterizer Score : 63,205 3DRasterMarks
19	Game 1 - Race: 225.3 FPS
20	Game 2 - First Person: 81.6 FPS
21	Fill Rate : 2,293.7 MTexels/s
22	Fill Rate With Multi-Texturing : 11,086.2 MTexels/s
23	2MB Texture Rendering Speed: 1,594.1 FPS
24	4MB Texture Rendering Speed: 1,277.7 FPS
25	8MB Texture Rendering Speed: 940.2 FPS
26	16MB Texture Rendering Speed: 637.8 FPS
27	32MB Texture Rendering Speed: 468.1 FPS
28	Bump Mapping Emboss, 3-pass: 543.5 FPS
29	Bump Mapping Emboss, 2-pass: 697.7 FPS
30	Bump Mapping Emboss, 1-pass: 1,060.6 FPS
31	Point Sample Texture Filtering Speed: 100.8 %
32	Bilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 100.0 %
33	Trilinear Texture Filtering Speed: 98.5 %
34	Anisotropic Texture Filtering Speed: 92.8 %
35	6 Pixel/individual: 11,354.7 KPolygons/s
36	6 Pixel/strips: 43,947.1 KPolygons/s
37	25 Pixel/individual: 8,734.9 KPolygons/s
38	25 Pixel/strips: 15,423.0 KPolygons/s
39	50 Pixel/individual: 5,254.8 KPolygons/s
40	50 Pixel/strips: 6,834.2 KPolygons/s
41	250 Pixel/individual: 1,512.2 KPolygons/s
42	250 Pixel/strips: 1,439.5 KPolygons/s
43	1000 Pixel/individual: 392.0 KPolygons/s
44	1000 Pixel/strips: 2,093.0 KPolygons/s
45
46System:
47	Windows Version: Windows 4, Build 2222
48	DirectX Version: 4.07.00.0700
49	Bios Version: Not detected
50	Bios Date: Not detected
51	Total Physical Memory: 256 MB
52	Free Physical Memory: 225 MB
53
54Processor:
55	Processor Type: Unknown
56	Processor Speed: 2996 MHz
57	Processor Caps:  MMX SSE
58	L1 Cache Size: None
59	L2 Cache Size: None
60

61Desktop:
62	2D Display Adapter Name: @oem59.inf,%amd6758.6%;AMD Radeon HD 6670
63	2D Display Adapter Driver Date: 12-6-2013
64	Monitor Name: Not detected
65	Monitor Driver Date: Not detected
66	Desktop Resolution: 1920*1080
67	Desktop Color Depth: 32-Bit Color
68
693D Accelerator:
70	Name: AMD Radeon HD 6670
71	Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
72	Driver Version: 0.00.00.0000
73	Total Video Memory On Card: 1,049,204 KB
74	Total Texture Memory: 2,333,948 KB
75	Bus: AGP
76
77	Supported Features:
78		16-bit Rendering
79		32-bit Rendering
80		Point Sampling
81		Point Sampling With Mip-Mapping
82		Bilinear Filtering
83		Bilinear Filtering With Mip-Mapping
84		Trilinear Filtering
85		Anisotropic Filtering
86		Specular Gouraud Shading
87		Vertex Fox
88		Range-Based Fog
89		Table Fog
90		W-Fog
91		Sub-Pixel Accuracy
92		Alpha Blending
93		Addivitive Alpha Blending
94		Multiplicative Alpha Blending
95		Vertex Alpha Blending
96		Vertex And Texture Alpha Blending
97		S3 Texture Compression
98
99	Supported 3D Display Modes:
100		640*480, 16bit color
101		800*600, 16bit color
102		1024*768, 16bit color
103		1152*864, 16bit color
104		1280*720, 16bit color
105		1280*768, 16bit color
106		1280*800, 16bit color
107		1280*960, 16bit color
108		1280*1024, 16bit color
109		640*480, 32bit color
110		800*600, 32bit color
111		1024*768, 32bit color
112		1152*864, 32bit color
113		1280*720, 32bit color
114		1280*768, 32bit color
115		1280*800, 32bit color
116		1280*960, 32bit color
117		1280*1024, 32bit color
118
119	Supported Texture Formats:
120		15-bit, 555 RGB
121		16-bit, 5551 RGBA
122		16-bit, 4444 RGBA
123		16-bit, 565 RGB
124		24-bit, 888 RGB
125		32-bit, 8888 RGBA

Asus CUSL-2
Pentium III 933 Coppermine
512 PC133 SDRAM
Riva TNT2 Pro
Sound Blaster Live (CT4620)
Windows Me

I'm pretty happy with my system, but I've been thinking about getting a Geforce 256 and a couple of Voodoo2s. A Voodoo3 3000/3500 would be cool too, but I'm thinking it would be better to use a 32-bit capable card for opengl and d3d titles, tho I always end up setting most games to 16-bit anyways to get smoother framerates. Severance runs fairly well on my current configuration tho, so I don't really need to change anything.

joacim's score makes me think there is something wrong with my system , because I can't imagine the Athlon 1000/V5500 being beaten by a PIII 933/TNT2. obviously not a competition , but it makes me wonder if the some settings are wrong, and Im not getting the most out of it.

suppose it could also be something to do with Windows Me vs 98se

Your scores doesn't sound right to me either. Is it normal for 3dfx cards to score this low in 3DMark 99?

http://www.voodooland.org/tests/ben.htm

This site makes it look like it is normal. My system gets a better score in 99, but the V5500 destroys mine in 00 and 01 (I get 3317 in 00 and 1396 in 01). I'm guessing this is just a quirk with 3DMark 99.

hmm , I will run 3DMark2k and 2k1 to see if there is any difference

ok , ran the tests

3dmark2000 (1024X768X16) - 4366 , interestingly If I picked the "3DNow optimization" as opposed to the standard Athlon ones, the score is lower,
3dmark2001 (1024X768X32) - 1876

well its an improvement , though Im not sure its as high as it could go (given the V5500 can usually outdo the GF256 DDR, a considerably more capable card than the TNT2)
those results on that page are probably in part due to the Athlon XP being used.

Got my V5 5500 today!

This is on an Intel 815E B-step chipset board from AOpen. Pentium III-S Tualatin 1.4 GHz and Windows 98 SE.

And here a V4 4500...

Quite surprised, the V4 is quite slow.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

And here a V4 4500...

Quite surprised, the V4 is quite slow.

Yes the clock is lower than a V3 3500 or V3 3500TV, however it can do 32 bit rendering and 2048x2048 textures.

elianda wrote:

Yes the clock is lower than a V3 3500 or V3 3500TV, however it can do 32 bit rendering and 2048x2048 textures.

Yes, 166 MHz vs 183 MHz. Having only done a few benchmarks, the V4 is faster in some games (Turok 2 and Incoming), the same speed (Quake II) or slower (Forsaken).