Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-23, 10:00:

Hey there! I got myself a 775 board for my XP retrobox not even 6 months ago (a nice lanparty dkp45). […]
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Hey there!
I got myself a 775 board for my XP retrobox not even 6 months ago (a nice lanparty dkp45).

I was lucky that I found an ebay local seller that was giving away a nice combo in an auction, so I managed to get it for 40€ with shipping. Mobo+CPU+RAM+GPU. I then went on a craze and upgraded basically all component on it. Currently it runs an E8600 (OCd at 4 ghz), 4Gb of thight DDR2 RAM and a Radeon HD6970 (also got for cheap from an auction).
The oldest game I ran on this system, currently, is Crazy Taxi (the 2002 port that ran at 50 fps, thus slower than the arcade). I'm pretty sure earlier XP games like Max Payne should aslo run without issuses on it. In case I need and older GPU, the combo included an HD4850. Another GPU option may be a GTX 560ti. They can be also had for cheap (found one for 15€ at a flea market just two days ago. Unfortunately it was 100% dead and I had to return it)
Of course, if some transition 9x - XP games do experience problems on hardware this recent (late 2000s), I also have a PIII 1000 + Ti 4200 combo as a fallback. Maxing out games like Max Payne on it it's not a big problem, just be aware that Ti 4200 can be quite expensive. If compatibility with earlier 9x games isn't a must, you can go the Radeon way and save some money (like 9600XT).

EDIT: No, not the new one. The older one from 2004. I just noticed that this new Radeon generation, with the 9060XT, is gonna cause some confusion for us retro hardware enthusiasts.

Hello. Thanks for sharing your impressions. you have point due the similar naming of the old and new 900 series from Radeon the danger of mixing up stuff can happen. Anyway the old 9600xt sounds interesting and might be good alernative to the ti 4200 on my win 98se system. The 9000 series is supposed to be really good. But I think also thave the repuation of overheating. I am not sure though if this can be just applied the 9700 and 9800 and not so much for the 9600xt... I need to dig deeper to find out reliable information .

Also thanks a lot for making some suggestions for decent core 2 system including some potential gpu picks.

I have done general research on 775 boards on ebay and he pricing is attractive. The pricing of the intel core 2 duo e series is also good. Even the E8600 (I think it was one of the top models) is availabe at a good price.

The lga 775 path seems worthwile to me.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 11:57:

Hello. Thanks for sharing your impressions. you have point due the similar naming of the old and new 900 series from Radeon th […]
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Hello. Thanks for sharing your impressions. you have point due the similar naming of the old and new 900 series from Radeon the danger of mixing up stuff can happen. Anyway the old 9600xt sounds interesting and might be good alernative to the ti 4200 on my win 98se system. The 9000 series is supposed to be really good. But I think also thave the repuation of overheating. I am not sure though if this can be just applied the 9700 and 9800 and not so much for the 9600xt... I need to dig deeper to find out reliable information .

Also thanks a lot for making some suggestions for decent core 2 system including some potential gpu picks.

I have done general research on 775 boards on ebay and he pricing is attractive. The pricing of the intel core 2 duo e series is also good. Even the E8600 (I think it was one of the top models) is availabe at a good price.

The lga 775 path seems worthwile to me.

A good 775 board can be used to dual boot Win 98 and Win XP no problems, just need the copatible hardware.
About 9000 series overheating... I don't own one, since I went the way of the Ti 4200. But even those may run hot. You'll see very small coolers, just on the GPU itself (and ignoring the memory). In fact, my Ti 4200 arrived borked, with severe artifacts, making it unusable. I got a refund and then used the money in a local repair shop, wich managed to mostly resurrect it. I can still spot some weird pixels in 3Dmark '99 and Half Life DirectX, but none in other 3D mark, half life openGL and Max Paye.
So yeah, those cards didn't go that heavy on cooling, focusing on the chip itself. Meaning the memory was left there to get nice and toasty. So, if you can, get it from a reputable seller that offers some sort of buyer protection or warranty. In my short experience with retro hardware, I've noticed that GPUs are the most common part to fail, followed by RAM.
If you get a working one, invest in new paste and better cooling. Even getting air moving across your case is enough. I managed to cool an Athlon 1400 in an old case Pentium case just by adding a couple of fans in the front.

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-23, 12:43:

A good 775 board can be used to dual boot Win 98 and Win XP no problems, just need the copatible hardware. About 9000 series ove […]
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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 11:57:

Hello. Thanks for sharing your impressions. you have point due the similar naming of the old and new 900 series from Radeon th […]
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Hello. Thanks for sharing your impressions. you have point due the similar naming of the old and new 900 series from Radeon the danger of mixing up stuff can happen. Anyway the old 9600xt sounds interesting and might be good alernative to the ti 4200 on my win 98se system. The 9000 series is supposed to be really good. But I think also thave the repuation of overheating. I am not sure though if this can be just applied the 9700 and 9800 and not so much for the 9600xt... I need to dig deeper to find out reliable information .

Also thanks a lot for making some suggestions for decent core 2 system including some potential gpu picks.

I have done general research on 775 boards on ebay and he pricing is attractive. The pricing of the intel core 2 duo e series is also good. Even the E8600 (I think it was one of the top models) is availabe at a good price.

The lga 775 path seems worthwile to me.

A good 775 board can be used to dual boot Win 98 and Win XP no problems, just need the copatible hardware.
About 9000 series overheating... I don't own one, since I went the way of the Ti 4200. But even those may run hot. You'll see very small coolers, just on the GPU itself (and ignoring the memory). In fact, my Ti 4200 arrived borked, with severe artifacts, making it unusable. I got a refund and then used the money in a local repair shop, wich managed to mostly resurrect it. I can still spot some weird pixels in 3Dmark '99 and Half Life DirectX, but none in other 3D mark, half life openGL and Max Paye.
So yeah, those cards didn't go that heavy on cooling, focusing on the chip itself. Meaning the memory was left there to get nice and toasty. So, if you can, get it from a reputable seller that offers some sort of buyer protection or warranty. In my short experience with retro hardware, I've noticed that GPUs are the most common part to fail, followed by RAM.
If you get a working one, invest in new paste and better cooling. Even getting air moving across your case is enough. I managed to cool an Athlon 1400 in an old case Pentium case just by adding a couple of fans in the front.

thanks for the further info. A dual System is something I should cosider for conviniance. I have just space for one pc. as soon as I have 2 pcs i would have need to remove my socket 370 rig from it is place and get the xp system out the closet and vice versa. I would not mind doing so.

But having one pc for both operation systems sounds tempting and would be way more convinient.

is there certain 775 board that would be great for both systems that come into your mind you could recommend?

Also thanks for the info about the cooling of the cards. The infos are conflicting Some say the over heating is more a problem for the high end cards like 9700 or 9800 while others say it good to be careful in general. Providing better cooling is stuff that should be done anyway no matter how good or bad the card's reputation is with the cooling.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 13:19:

thanks for the further info. A dual System is something I should cosider for conviniance. I have just space for one pc. […]
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thanks for the further info. A dual System is something I should cosider for conviniance. I have just space for one pc. as soon as I have 2 pcs i would have need to remove my socket 370 rig from it is place and get the xp system out the closet and vice versa. I would not mind doing so.

But having one pc for both operation systems sounds tempting and would be way more convinient.

is there certain 775 board that would be great for both systems that come into your mind you could recommend?

Also thanks for the info about the cooling of the cards. The infos are conflicting Some say the over heating is more a problem for the high end cards like 9700 or 9800 while others say it good to be careful in general. Providing better cooling is stuff that should be done anyway no matter how good or bad the card's reputation is with the cooling.

Well, on thing about the cooling is: The more powerfull the card, the more heat will output. If you don't mind abismal Dx9 support, you can even go for an nVidia FX series. You should be able to match the Dx8 speeds of a Ti4200 with less power output, and thus heat. Same thing with AMD.
Now, I went over the ball with this on my XP system just because I got my HD6970 for cheap, being it quite a power hungry card it also heats up a lot, but the dual fans helps (as does the thermalgrizzly paste and cooling pads).
For my older systems, I went with the biggest cooler I could fit and the biggest noctua fans I could fit on the cooler and on the front of the case. Not much noise, but plenty for air to move (I still have to post some pics of these systems, I gotta remind when I'm done with the sound cards).

This is old hardware, and most of it is sourced from unknown places., with unknown history. Overdoing with cooling can only help in making it last longer.

For a 775 mobo for win98... It all depends on driver support. XP was the current OS, so it will work fine on any 775 board out there. But the one I have doesn't seem to have chipsets drivers for Win9x at all, only up from Win2K. You'll probably have to go for older 775 MOBOs, The Retro Web may be a good resource. But I'm pretty sure even Vogons has a Wiki for MOBOs with specs. Or look at AMD ones? Socket 754 and, maybe, even AM2 could get the deed done. Afterall, if you wanna dual boot, you're better of with a single core CPU.
(Also, consider this: Some early XP/Late 9X games didn't like fast processors. I'm only familiar with several games in the FIFA series and some racing games that would either run too fast or refuse to start on high clocks CPUs).
But with this option, you can skip AGP cards and go for early PCIe cards, from late 2000s.

Space is also something to consider. Having a single PC will remove the headache of both space and video/audio splitting. I found myself spending quite a few €€ on a decent KVM switch and an audio mixer. I have three PCs connected to the same media center (CRT/speakers and M/K), and not only that desk is now quite heavy, the back of it looks like a nuclear power plant with all those cables going around.

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-23, 14:08:

Well, on thing about the cooling is: The more powerfull the card, the more heat will output. If you don't mind abismal Dx9 suppo […]
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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 13:19:

thanks for the further info. A dual System is something I should cosider for conviniance. I have just space for one pc. […]
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thanks for the further info. A dual System is something I should cosider for conviniance. I have just space for one pc. as soon as I have 2 pcs i would have need to remove my socket 370 rig from it is place and get the xp system out the closet and vice versa. I would not mind doing so.

But having one pc for both operation systems sounds tempting and would be way more convinient.

is there certain 775 board that would be great for both systems that come into your mind you could recommend?

Also thanks for the info about the cooling of the cards. The infos are conflicting Some say the over heating is more a problem for the high end cards like 9700 or 9800 while others say it good to be careful in general. Providing better cooling is stuff that should be done anyway no matter how good or bad the card's reputation is with the cooling.

Well, on thing about the cooling is: The more powerfull the card, the more heat will output. If you don't mind abismal Dx9 support, you can even go for an nVidia FX series. You should be able to match the Dx8 speeds of a Ti4200 with less power output, and thus heat. Same thing with AMD.
Now, I went over the ball with this on my XP system just because I got my HD6970 for cheap, being it quite a power hungry card it also heats up a lot, but the dual fans helps (as does the thermalgrizzly paste and cooling pads).
For my older systems, I went with the biggest cooler I could fit and the biggest noctua fans I could fit on the cooler and on the front of the case. Not much noise, but plenty for air to move (I still have to post some pics of these systems, I gotta remind when I'm done with the sound cards).

This is old hardware, and most of it is sourced from unknown places., with unknown history. Overdoing with cooling can only help in making it last longer.

For a 775 mobo for win98... It all depends on driver support. XP was the current OS, so it will work fine on any 775 board out there. But the one I have doesn't seem to have chipsets drivers for Win9x at all, only up from Win2K. You'll probably have to go for older 775 MOBOs, The Retro Web may be a good resource. But I'm pretty sure even Vogons has a Wiki for MOBOs with specs. Or look at AMD ones? Socket 754 and, maybe, even AM2 could get the deed done. Afterall, if you wanna dual boot, you're better of with a single core CPU.
(Also, consider this: Some early XP/Late 9X games didn't like fast processors. I'm only familiar with several games in the FIFA series and some racing games that would either run too fast or refuse to start on high clocks CPUs).
But with this option, you can skip AGP cards and go for early PCIe cards, from late 2000s.

Space is also something to consider. Having a single PC will remove the headache of both space and video/audio splitting. I found myself spending quite a few €€ on a decent KVM switch and an audio mixer. I have three PCs connected to the same media center (CRT/speakers and M/K), and not only that desk is now quite heavy, the back of it looks like a nuclear power plant with all those cables going around.

Thank you for the detailed response. I’m still considering my options and haven’t made a final decision yet. The idea of having a single, powerful system under my desk to handle all my retro gaming needs is appealing, especially from a space-saving perspective. I also find the prospect of setting up the system intriguing from a pure tinkering standpoint.

I’m fully aware of the potential shortcomings such a build might bring.

As you mentioned, for some older games, the Core 2 E8600 might be too fast.

Finding the right Win98SE drivers is another factor to consider.

It might also be necessary to use two different GPUs and sound cards for the Win98 and XP segments.

It would be problematic if a modern card has issues with table fog.

A too-modern sound card might have compatibility issues with earlier standards, and for newer XP games, the ideal Win98SE card might be too outdated.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 15:30:

Thank you for the detailed response. I’m still considering my options and haven’t made a final decision yet. The idea of having […]
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Thank you for the detailed response. I’m still considering my options and haven’t made a final decision yet. The idea of having a single, powerful system under my desk to handle all my retro gaming needs is appealing, especially from a space-saving perspective. I also find the prospect of setting up the system intriguing from a pure tinkering standpoint.

I’m fully aware of the potential shortcomings such a build might bring.

As you mentioned, for some older games, the Core 2 E8600 might be too fast.

Finding the right Win98SE drivers is another factor to consider.

It might also be necessary to use two different GPUs and sound cards for the Win98 and XP segments.

It would be problematic if a modern card has issues with table fog.

A too-modern sound card might have compatibility issues with earlier standards, and for newer XP games, the ideal Win98SE card might be too outdated.

Well, consider this: A dual boot PC will inherently bring some compromises to accuracy. If you want to keep the maximum accuracy of a Windows 98 game with both audio support and video, you'll need a dedicated 9x retrobox. Because, I'm not very sure, but table fog support didn't last very long in the XP era, and if you go for a setup similar to mine, from late 2000, you can kiss those features goodbye.

At that point is best to build a top of the line Dx8 desktop PC, with either a powerful Pentium III (wich are actually not that power hungry), or a socket 462/754. But mind you, lots of 462 mobos don't come with CPU power connector, thus they are pretty hard to run on modern PSUs with weak 3.3 and 5v rails (also another thing that I learnt the expensive way).
As CPU speed goes, you don't need to go overkill for those kind of games. 1GhZ may be enough for stable performances even in the latest 9x games and some early XP games (but maybe not 60 fps rocks solid), but if you manage to stay below 2GhZ you should get plenty of compatibility without having too of a power hungry (and hot) CPU. My PIII coppermine 1 GhZ coupled with a Ti4200 manages decent performances even in game like Max Payne, that would run no issues on a more recent XP machine. It's actually bottlenecking the GPU.
For older games... 3D graphics were advancing pretty fast, so even 2/3 year older games than Max Payne would run on toasters alredy in 2002 (I now cause I had a toaster in 2002, and Dx6 games just worked on it). I have NFS3 in another retroPC, running blazing fast at 800x600 16bit, max settings, on an Athlon 1.4 GhZ and a PCI Radeon 9250. 64bit. A dreadfull card for early 2000 games, but those late 90s ones? No problems. They just work.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 06:15:

Thanks for your advice as well. The radeon x1900xt looks like a neat card and should be well suited for me to enjoy early xp games. But it cannot be denied that I would need something more post 2006 games to enjoy great quality. I will also look into the intel boards for a good core 2. system.

Core 2 is brand i wanted back then but was not able to afford one. Are any confirmed information about how compatible with earlier xp games. I am little woried that some games migh issues with more than one cpu core and look much worse than they should. A problem i have ofen encountered when playing some really old stuff on my modern ryzen rig.

But in case there are so such problems a core 2 system would be a awesome choice.

Offhand I can think of two problems with Core 2 (and other newer CPUs) when used with old games.
- multiple cores
- game timing issues due to power management

If the game seems to be behaving strangely, like scripting bugs or lots of crashing, having multiple cores could be the issue. There is free a utility called imagecfg.exe that will reconfigure a game's exe to use only one core. I believe Star Wars KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are two examples of this. Multiple cores don't tangibly benefit games until ~2006.
https://robpol86.com/imagecfg.html

If the game is running too fast, too slow or changing speed at random, this is often caused by power management varying the CPU clock speed according to load. Unreal Engine 1 games often have crazy game speed issues from this. You can set Windows or the BIOS to keep the CPU at full clock speed. This actually appeared with Pentium III Speedstep and Athlon 64 Cool'n'Quiet.

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-23, 17:19:

Well, consider this: A dual boot PC will inherently bring some compromises to accuracy. If you want to keep the maximum accuracy […]
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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 15:30:

Thank you for the detailed response. I’m still considering my options and haven’t made a final decision yet. The idea of having […]
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Thank you for the detailed response. I’m still considering my options and haven’t made a final decision yet. The idea of having a single, powerful system under my desk to handle all my retro gaming needs is appealing, especially from a space-saving perspective. I also find the prospect of setting up the system intriguing from a pure tinkering standpoint.

I’m fully aware of the potential shortcomings such a build might bring.

As you mentioned, for some older games, the Core 2 E8600 might be too fast.

Finding the right Win98SE drivers is another factor to consider.

It might also be necessary to use two different GPUs and sound cards for the Win98 and XP segments.

It would be problematic if a modern card has issues with table fog.

A too-modern sound card might have compatibility issues with earlier standards, and for newer XP games, the ideal Win98SE card might be too outdated.

Well, consider this: A dual boot PC will inherently bring some compromises to accuracy. If you want to keep the maximum accuracy of a Windows 98 game with both audio support and video, you'll need a dedicated 9x retrobox. Because, I'm not very sure, but table fog support didn't last very long in the XP era, and if you go for a setup similar to mine, from late 2000, you can kiss those features goodbye.

At that point is best to build a top of the line Dx8 desktop PC, with either a powerful Pentium III (wich are actually not that power hungry), or a socket 462/754. But mind you, lots of 462 mobos don't come with CPU power connector, thus they are pretty hard to run on modern PSUs with weak 3.3 and 5v rails (also another thing that I learnt the expensive way).
As CPU speed goes, you don't need to go overkill for those kind of games. 1GhZ may be enough for stable performances even in the latest 9x games and some early XP games (but maybe not 60 fps rocks solid), but if you manage to stay below 2GhZ you should get plenty of compatibility without having too of a power hungry (and hot) CPU. My PIII coppermine 1 GhZ coupled with a Ti4200 manages decent performances even in game like Max Payne, that would run no issues on a more recent XP machine. It's actually bottlenecking the GPU.
For older games... 3D graphics were advancing pretty fast, so even 2/3 year older games than Max Payne would run on toasters alredy in 2002 (I now cause I had a toaster in 2002, and Dx6 games just worked on it). I have NFS3 in another retroPC, running blazing fast at 800x600 16bit, max settings, on an Athlon 1.4 GhZ and a PCI Radeon 9250. 64bit. A dreadfull card for early 2000 games, but those late 90s ones? No problems. They just work.

Thanks for pointing me in another direction. Maximum accuracy of a Windows 98 game with both audio support and video is key feature I would not want to miss. So maxing my socket 370 system as originally planned win98 se and then getting socket 462 or 754 for early xp gaming joy. Valid options to think about.

Socket 462 is interesting plattform for me despite having troubles getting the right psu.

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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 06:15:

Thanks for your advice as well. The radeon x1900xt looks like a neat card and should be well suited for me to enjoy early xp games. But it cannot be denied that I would need something more post 2006 games to enjoy great quality. I will also look into the intel boards for a good core 2. system.

Core 2 is brand i wanted back then but was not able to afford one. Are any confirmed information about how compatible with earlier xp games. I am little woried that some games migh issues with more than one cpu core and look much worse than they should. A problem i have ofen encountered when playing some really old stuff on my modern ryzen rig.

But in case there are so such problems a core 2 system would be a awesome choice.

Offhand I can think of two problems with Core 2 (and other newer CPUs) when used with old games.
- multiple cores
- game timing issues due to power management

If the game seems to be behaving strangely, like scripting bugs or lots of crashing, having multiple cores could be the issue. There is free a utility called imagecfg.exe that will reconfigure a game's exe to use only one core. I believe Star Wars KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are two examples of this. Multiple cores don't tangibly benefit games until ~2006.
https://robpol86.com/imagecfg.html

If the game is running too fast, too slow or changing speed at random, this is often caused by power management varying the CPU clock speed according to load. Unreal Engine 1 games often have crazy game speed issues from this. You can set Windows or the BIOS to keep the CPU at full clock speed. This actually appeared with Pentium III Speedstep and Athlon 64 Cool'n'Quiet.
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thanks for providing the info. Good to know that there ways to circumvent the speed problem.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 18:56:

Socket 462 is interesting plattform for me despite having troubles getting the right psu.

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs.
I alredy have my eyes on getting one, in case anything bad should ever happen to either my Enermax PSUs or my original, "my first PC", 462 mobo.

I'm pretty sure there's a thread here on VOGONS about 462 MOBOs with CPU power connector.

here it is

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-25, 21:22:

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs. I alredy […]
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Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs.
I alredy have my eyes on getting one, in case anything bad should ever happen to either my Enermax PSUs or my original, "my first PC", 462 mobo.

I'm pretty sure there's a thread here on VOGONS about 462 MOBOs with CPU power connector.

here it is

In case the list is not complete it is always worth looking at photos in listings or on retroweb - the connector is really easy to spot and if it is there then the board has 12V VRM.

For example i have EPoX EP-8RDA3I which is not on that list (though Epox EP-8RDA3+ is), but it does have the connector/12V VRM.

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-25, 21:22:

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs. I alredy […]
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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 18:56:

Socket 462 is interesting plattform for me despite having troubles getting the right psu.

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs.
I alredy have my eyes on getting one, in case anything bad should ever happen to either my Enermax PSUs or my original, "my first PC", 462 mobo.

I'm pretty sure there's a thread here on VOGONS about 462 MOBOs with CPU power connector.

here it is

That is interesting. I was not aware that such mobos exist in the first place. I will check out the avibility out of these boards asap. Thanks for the linking the interseting thread.

@Archer Thanks for the further info too.

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-26, 05:55:

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-25, 21:22:

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs. I alredy […]
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retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-23, 18:56:

Socket 462 is interesting plattform for me despite having troubles getting the right psu.

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs.
I alredy have my eyes on getting one, in case anything bad should ever happen to either my Enermax PSUs or my original, "my first PC", 462 mobo.

I'm pretty sure there's a thread here on VOGONS about 462 MOBOs with CPU power connector.

here it is

That is interesting. I was not aware that such mobos exist in the first place. I will check out the avibility out of these boards asap. Thanks for the linking the interseting thread.

@Archer Thanks for the further info too.

if you want a 775 socket with up to dual core support thats good for Dos/98 and xp, i'd recommend an MSI PM8PM-V, it has driver support for win95 up to vista, and will also run later Os's as well. there is another version of this board which is the PM8PM which i got from a medion pc (the board is actually an MSI PM8PM-IL) i had to flash it from the medion bios to a stock MSI bios to restore the missing options in the bios, aside from that its a good board, it supports up to a core 2 duo E6600/x6800, AGPx8 and 2GB ddr2

DudeFace wrote on 2025-05-27, 05:53:

retep_110 wrote on 2025-05-26, 05:55:

Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-05-25, 21:22:

Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs. I alredy […]
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Or... You can shill more money than usual and get a 462 MOBO with a 4 PIN CPU power. Then you can use any modern PSUs.
I alredy have my eyes on getting one, in case anything bad should ever happen to either my Enermax PSUs or my original, "my first PC", 462 mobo.

I'm pretty sure there's a thread here on VOGONS about 462 MOBOs with CPU power connector.

here it is

That is interesting. I was not aware that such mobos exist in the first place. I will check out the avibility out of these boards asap. Thanks for the linking the interseting thread.

@Archer Thanks for the further info too.

if you want a 775 socket with up to dual core support thats good for Dos/98 and xp, i'd recommend an MSI PM8PM-V, it has driver support for win95 up to vista, and will also run later Os's as well. there is another version of this board which is the PM8PM which i got from a medion pc (the board is actually an MSI PM8PM-IL) i had to flash it from the medion bios to a stock MSI bios to restore the missing options in the bios, aside from that its a good board, it supports up to a core 2 duo E6600/x6800, AGPx8 and 2GB ddr2

Thanks a lot for your recommendaton. Sounds nice. I will check the mainboard out.