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Reply 20 of 21, by dionb

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KiasuKing wrote on 2025-11-14, 13:40:

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Thank you Dionb. I suspect you are right. I did some testing last night and the ALS100 sounds almost identical to my SB Pro CT1600s in Wing Commander 1. I have 2 of them - one being my original card from back in 1991 - and yes i still have the box 😀 I also tried Wing Commander with the AWE Value (CT4500) and while I am hardly a sound snob, there was a very noticeable difference. I will include some photos of the card below which may assist with identifying it, as well as post an update on this system which went through a dramatic update yesterday.

That "LS-212" is a 1:1 clone of the Yamaha OPL3 on the SBPro 2.0, so yes, the only difference you should hear is the analog filters (if present) on the card.

Incidentally the GM board was originally attached to a Samsung SAB 2000 Audio Magic 2. I no longer have it - lost it mysteriously which is hard to believe. The SAB 2000 looked like a soundscape, big long board which makes misplacing it even more of a mystery to me as I am incredibly careful and meticulous with old equipment. In digging up its providence I discovered it had a genuine OPL3 chip on it and in testing it worked and sounded like an SB Pro. Someone posted a video of it on youtube and he posted me the drivers. https://youtu.be/2vVfZA6rKLQ?si=_Tm9HoqDx0mZ-mcn

Drivers? That OPTi chipset is hardware SBPro2 compatible and doesn't need any drivers in DOS, it just needs initializing.

The card is nothing like a Soundscape, it's just a pretty generic (but bug-free) SBPro2-compatible board with MPU-401 UART and (slightly broken) WSS support - and in this case a pile of proprietary CD-ROM interfaces. Still a pretty decent DOS or Windows card (but not both at the same time due to difficulty in switching between SB and WSS modes).

Reply 21 of 21, by KiasuKing

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dionb wrote on 2025-11-14, 18:05:
That "LS-212" is a 1:1 clone of the Yamaha OPL3 on the SBPro 2.0, so yes, the only difference you should hear is the analog filt […]
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KiasuKing wrote on 2025-11-14, 13:40:

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Thank you Dionb. I suspect you are right. I did some testing last night and the ALS100 sounds almost identical to my SB Pro CT1600s in Wing Commander 1. I have 2 of them - one being my original card from back in 1991 - and yes i still have the box 😀 I also tried Wing Commander with the AWE Value (CT4500) and while I am hardly a sound snob, there was a very noticeable difference. I will include some photos of the card below which may assist with identifying it, as well as post an update on this system which went through a dramatic update yesterday.

That "LS-212" is a 1:1 clone of the Yamaha OPL3 on the SBPro 2.0, so yes, the only difference you should hear is the analog filters (if present) on the card.

Incidentally the GM board was originally attached to a Samsung SAB 2000 Audio Magic 2. I no longer have it - lost it mysteriously which is hard to believe. The SAB 2000 looked like a soundscape, big long board which makes misplacing it even more of a mystery to me as I am incredibly careful and meticulous with old equipment. In digging up its providence I discovered it had a genuine OPL3 chip on it and in testing it worked and sounded like an SB Pro. Someone posted a video of it on youtube and he posted me the drivers. https://youtu.be/2vVfZA6rKLQ?si=_Tm9HoqDx0mZ-mcn

Drivers? That OPTi chipset is hardware SBPro2 compatible and doesn't need any drivers in DOS, it just needs initializing.

The card is nothing like a Soundscape, it's just a pretty generic (but bug-free) SBPro2-compatible board with MPU-401 UART and (slightly broken) WSS support - and in this case a pile of proprietary CD-ROM interfaces. Still a pretty decent DOS or Windows card (but not both at the same time due to difficulty in switching between SB and WSS modes).

Wow you know your sound cards! AND after searching for it for nearly 2 years the SAB-2000 turned up tonight!!!! Seems I put it into my Pentium 3 CUBX a very long time ago as I was toying with dual booting it as a Windows98/DOS system and then abandoned the project, deciding to keep as a pure Win98 system with an SB Live doing the sound.