that vortex2 card with the colored jacks looks just like my dynex card with a via envy24 chip, except the card is pink... that's the most modern card I have 🤣
they still have drivers for the envy24 that works with a modern OS, what about the vortex2?

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I have 2 Vortex 2 cards. I got a Turtle beach a while ago, but recently purchased this new Techworks Vortex2 SuperQuad. Haven't played with it yet, but it comes with a driver disc.

The drivers for the Turtle beach can still be downloaded from their website 😀

Both cards have a wavetable connector, so the NEC XR385 is a perfect match. Allows you to play many of the newer DOS games with fantastic General MIDI music. E.g. Doom, Descent, games like that.

Yes, I downloaded what I believe are all their Vortex and Vortex 2 drivers, but they are all named "Montego II" or "Montego II Plus" and such, but the cards themselves have model numbers "ASC338" and "ASC338(E)" and I couldn't figure out which Montego belonged to which ASC338 card 😵
So I guess I'll just have to either read the documents that came with the drivers (all 5 Montego cards look very similar) or I'll have to guess 😵

I have maybe 1 or 2 daughterboards, and they are nothing special I think. One has "Dream"-something on the main chip and the other I can't remember (but it was quite a small daughterboard). I never really invested any money into my sound card collection, I basically make due with what I found/got for free 😁

TheMAN wrote:

that vortex2 card with the colored jacks looks just like my dynex card with a via envy24 chip, except the card is pink... that's the most modern card I have 🤣
they still have drivers for the envy24 that works with a modern OS, what about the vortex2?

I don't know. I believe Turtle Beach don't have drivers for their Vortex (2)cards for Windows 7 and such, but since all my Vortex cards are either Turtle Beach and Aztech, I didn't bother to look any further. All my cards are Vortex 1 with just 1 Vortex 2 in the pack.

Montego II sounds familiar. I only used it once for a comparison video between the CD-55 and NEC XR385.

The Montego (A3Dxstream) is the Vortex 1 based card, The Montego II is vortex 2 based. They look very similar. Both cards were also sold by Dell.

The additional Montego II editions differ in add-on modules: I have one digital I/O add-on module which can be connected with a ribbon cable to the Montego II base card. The base card can work with generic Vortex Drivers, but add-on modules require one to use the Turtle Beach supplied driver.

Does anyone have a TB Montego II Quadzilla? i read about them, but never saw one for sale.

BTW, with Vortex 2, use driver 2041 because 2048 has a lot of bugs like reversed sound in some games.

A glorious FTP archive
ftp://ftp.nchu.edu.tw/Hardware/multimedia/Aureal/

sliderider wrote:

Does anyone have a TB Montego II Quadzilla? i read about them, but never saw one for sale.

I may have one (I have 2 of those Turtle Beach sound cards here), but I don't know which cards they are, only that 1 of them is a Vortex with part number ASC338 and the other has part number ASC338(E) and is a Vortex 2. There were 5 Montego's on the Turtle Beach website and I don't know which name represents which part number! 😵

swaaye wrote:

BTW, with Vortex 2, use driver 2041 because 2048 has a lot of bugs like reversed sound in some games.

A glorious FTP archive
ftp://ftp.nchu.edu.tw/Hardware/multimedia/Aureal/

Thanks a lot for this link, Swaaye!

gerwin wrote:

The Montego (A3Dxstream) is the Vortex 1 based card, The Montego II is vortex 2 based. They look very similar. Both cards were also sold by Dell.

The additional Montego II editions differ in add-on modules: I have one digital I/O add-on module which can be connected with a ribbon cable to the Montego II base card. The base card can work with generic Vortex Drivers, but add-on modules require one to use the Turtle Beach supplied driver.

Thanks for this info Gerwin! I assumed the Turtle Beach required the Turtle Beach drivers for some reason.
Swaaye pointed me to some generic Vortex drivers which I'm downloading right now 😁

Hello,

I got a HP Vectra Pentium 166Mhz/L2 256ko cache / 3 PCI slots + 2 Isa slots

I've put a SoundBlaster128 PCI and a SoundBlaster AWE64 ISA PNP (CT4500) inside.
The OS is Win98SE.
The 2 soundcards are working well under Win98SE; I can have PCM sound from SB128 and MIDI sound from AWE64 at the same time.

Under DOS, when I try to play DOOM, I can't hear any sound.
I use CTCM to get SET BLASTER parameters. I use the same parameters in autoexec.bat and in Doom's setup... nothing happens.
I also have a Roland MT-32 and I project to connect it on the AWE64 for playing DOS Games and listen Midi under Win98SE.

CONFIG.SYS :

1DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
2DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FXX
3DOS=HIGH,UMB
4DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\setver.exe
5device=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,,1)
6Country=033,850,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\country.sys
7DEVICE=C:\DOS\AWE64\CTCM.EXE

AUTOEXEC.BAT

1prompt $p$g
2C:\DOS\AWE64\AWEUTIL.COM /S
3SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H7 P300 E620 T6
4SET SOUND=C:\DOS\AWE64

1 Répertoire de C:\DOS\AWE64
2
314/10/2014  07:25    <REP>          .
414/10/2014  07:25    <REP>          ..
513/01/1997  01:00            22 958 AWE64FAQ.TXT
611/06/1997  01:36            28 260 AWEUTIL.COM
726/10/1995  01:01             6 402 AWEUTIL.TXT
821/10/1996  04:05           295 074 DIAGNOSE.EXE
912/06/1997  02:17           106 422 MIXERSET.EXE
1018/08/1995  01:22            18 008 CTMIDI-S.DRV
1107/04/1995  01:14             9 919 CSP.SYS
1212/02/1997  02:02            18 090 CT3DSE.EXE
1306/06/1996  01:23            65 230 CTMIDI-A.DRV
1412/06/1997  02:17               389 CTMIX.CFG
1503/05/1995  01:03            10 330 CTMMSYS.SYS
1616/05/1996  03:02            33 865 CTSB16.SYS
1709/09/1994  04:04            15 586 CTWDSK.DRV
1829/07/1994  01:03            31 372 PLAY.EXE
1930/07/1994  01:03            19 426 RECORD.EXE
2015/07/1997  01:09           593 631 CTCU.EXE
2114/04/1997  01:08            87 508 CTCM.EXE
2214/04/1997  01:08               428 CTPNP.CFG
2314/10/2014  07:25    <REP>          DRV
24              19 fichier(s)        1 362 898 octets
25
26 Répertoire de C:\DOS\AWE64\DRV
27
2814/10/2014  07:25    <REP>          .
2914/10/2014  07:25    <REP>          ..
3011/07/1997  04:16             5 898 AUXDRV.DRV
3114/10/1994  04:05            31 842 CT-VOICE.DRV
3206/06/1996  01:23            65 230 CTMIDI.DRV
3303/05/1995  01:03            10 330 CTMMSYS.SYS
3420/02/1997  03:04            34 353 CTSB16.SYS
3509/01/1995  04:08            45 954 CTVDSK.DRV
3609/09/1994  04:04            15 586 CTWDSK.DRV
3707/12/1995  04:04            12 218 CTWMEM.DRV

Any idea of what's wrong ?
Thanks for help!

how do you connect the soundcards to the Speakers?

Do you connect lineout from soundcard1 to Linein from Soundcard2 and then from SoundCard2 to the Speakers?

Then Check mixersettings in Dos maybe Midi oder Linein is Muted.

And i can't See any DOS Drivers loaded for you PCI Soundcard.

Can you try Doom inside the win98 command prompt?

The SB128PCI out is connected on AWE64 line in and speaker on AWE64 line out.
But I tried also with speaker connected to SB128PCI with Doom playing. No sound either.

You're right, I only tried to make AWE64 working under DOS; so I haven't tried SB128PCI DOS Drivers.

Do you think it's possible to make both soundcard working together under DOS ?
When I will connect my Roland MT-32, which card will I choose ?

Start working with one card at a time. Two Creative cards can be challenging. Personally I would just use the AWE64 Gold 😀

It is also the perfect host card for the Roland MT-32, in combination with SoftMPU project (more info in the SoftMPU thread).

Thanks phil,

That's my opinion. The SB AWE64 seems to be good alone for DOS gaming and MT-32 support.

Now I have to work more on my configuration files...
After receiving my MT-32 last week, I will have a Matrox Mystique 220 PCI tomorrow. So I need to make sound work tonight.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Try with games like Monkey Island if the MT-32 works. Use joystick MIDI cable MIDI out to MIDI in Roiand.

philscomputerlab wrote:

Start working with one card at a time. Two Creative cards can be challenging. Personally I would just use the AWE64 Gold

I would say it's doable. Not only i use a SB Pro 2 and an AWE64 but i have a GUS in there as well. Works well.

phil, I will receive my Joystick/Midi Cable next week. At this time, I use the Roland MT-32 on my Atari ST.

carlostex, how are your config.sys and autoexec.bat ?

I crashed Win98SE by installing DOS drivers for AWE64 because it has also installed Win3.11 drivers in Win98 system's directory...
I restored Win98SE and I installed SBPCI128 DOS drivers.
Now I have SB128PCI running under DOS and WIndows98SE but I've lost Win98SE AWE64 support !?

I think I need to manually installed DOS AWE64 drivers.

What I did to get around the drivers checking what version of dos is installed, installing crap in Windows, etc is to install the drivers in Dos first. Copy that folder usually SB16 and the autoexec and config.sys files somewhere else. Do a clean install of Win9x. including sound card drivers, then copy the files back. Dos drivers don't care what OS you are running just the installer and don't need to know anything about windows.

In a 486 PCI motherboard or a slow Pentium motherboard, you're probably better off to use an ISA sound card. You don't want to overload the PCI bus in a slow machine with too many devices.

Oh, since my last post to this thread I have gotten a Quadzilla. 😁

Or was it two Quadzillas? I forget now. 😒

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I crashed Win98SE by installing DOS drivers for AWE64 because it has also installed Win3.11 drivers in Win98 system's directory...
I restored Win98SE and I installed SBPCI128 DOS drivers.
Now I have SB128PCI running under DOS and WIndows98SE but I've lost Win98SE AWE64 support !?

I think I need to manually installed DOS AWE64 drivers.

I had a similar problem recently. I was testing a real DOS 7.10 environment but the installer insisted that I was running Windows and I wound up with a corrupted driver installation that wouldn't work properly. Use of SETVER fixed some of the issues but I still wasn't getting proper sound and gave up in frustration. Back to 6.22.

This happens if you are using the MS-DOS drivers! There are separate drivers for Windows 95 MS-DOS mode. While they don't come with an installer, they will work 100%.

I've added it to my list of videos I would like to re-do because this question / problem pops up all the time 😀