The problem is not the price of this controller if it actually made a 2 million dollar industrial machine work, the problem is that the first idiot who sees it wants to sell his Adaptec 1505 for $500!!!!

songoffall wrote on 2024-01-14, 19:09:

It has two LFH-60 external connectors, as you noted, two internal HD-DB 68 connectors, and a 120-pin edge connector I don't reco […]
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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:15:

low-force helix (LFH-60) connector. Ive never seen one on a SCSI card before but I have seen them on graphics cards to put 4 VGA […]
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low-force helix (LFH-60) connector.
Ive never seen one on a SCSI card before but I have seen them on graphics cards to put 4 VGA connectors on one card via a break out cable.
Also seen them on Cisco routers for their serial connection.

If you google the name you should see just that.

As to the prices...
Its a sellers market becuase theres none about...
Its the same with the early Voodoo cards. Are they really worth upto £250 each? I mean really?

It has two LFH-60 external connectors, as you noted, two internal HD-DB 68 connectors, and a 120-pin edge connector I don't recognize.

EDIT: PC Hoarder Patrol has found out what the edge connector is for.

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2024-01-14, 18:44:

Guess the multi-port edge connector and LFH60 make it somewhat unusual, but not $600 worth! […]
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Guess the multi-port edge connector and LFH60 make it somewhat unusual, but not $600 worth!

With a built-in multi-port/OEM adapter, you
can add more functionality through snap-on modules. OEMs will also have the ability to
design their own cards or interface through an internal PCI-based bus. All of which
assures the highest performance possible and a long-term return on your purchase.

EXPPCI.PDF

This appears to be the PC driver set (DOS, NT, 95)...

AlessandroB wrote on 2024-01-14, 19:22:

The problem is not the price of this controller if it actually made a 2 million dollar industrial machine work, the problem is that the first idiot who sees it wants to sell his Adaptec 1505 for $500!!!!

It's a PowerPC Mac controller 😀)

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2024-01-14, 19:58:

songoffall wrote on 2024-01-14, 19:09:

It has two LFH-60 external connectors, as you noted, two internal HD-DB 68 connectors, and a 120-pin edge connector I don't reco […]
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ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:15:

low-force helix (LFH-60) connector. Ive never seen one on a SCSI card before but I have seen them on graphics cards to put 4 VGA […]
Show full quote

low-force helix (LFH-60) connector.
Ive never seen one on a SCSI card before but I have seen them on graphics cards to put 4 VGA connectors on one card via a break out cable.
Also seen them on Cisco routers for their serial connection.

If you google the name you should see just that.

As to the prices...
Its a sellers market becuase theres none about...
Its the same with the early Voodoo cards. Are they really worth upto £250 each? I mean really?

It has two LFH-60 external connectors, as you noted, two internal HD-DB 68 connectors, and a 120-pin edge connector I don't recognize.

EDIT: PC Hoarder Patrol has found out what the edge connector is for.

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2024-01-14, 18:44:

Guess the multi-port edge connector and LFH60 make it somewhat unusual, but not $600 worth! […]
Show full quote

Guess the multi-port edge connector and LFH60 make it somewhat unusual, but not $600 worth!

With a built-in multi-port/OEM adapter, you
can add more functionality through snap-on modules. OEMs will also have the ability to
design their own cards or interface through an internal PCI-based bus. All of which
assures the highest performance possible and a long-term return on your purchase.

EXPPCI.PDF

This appears to be the PC driver set (DOS, NT, 95)...

epci168.exe

Dude, you're awesome.

weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:55:

darry wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:40:

weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:12:

Did you actually look at the photo of the card ?

I actually did look, but I did miss the word "external" in your question, apologies. I was referring to the internal connectors. That and TBH, I did not even notice that there were external connectors until I read your reply to my answer.

np, The internal ones are normal 68p wide scsi though still not SCA in any way 😀

Yet more proof that I should be more attentive . Too late for new year's resolutions ? 😉

Disks and backplanes are usually the devices fitted with an SCA connector. The SCSI controller card side of the bus usually has a standard 68pin connector.

I did see a motherboard once with a connector that looked like a small SCA connector though, Im sure it was an Intel manufactured board, I have a vague memory of it being something to do with the graphics though. No idea how or why.

For those who have this card and want to use it on a non-Mac system: Windows98 automatically installs drivers that support it and work just fine. Also I don't want to celebrate before time, but it may have revived an old Seagate SCSI drive I had. So maybe this adapter might actually turn out to be a bit special to me.

Well, I was right about not celebrating too early. The HDD does spin up and shows up in device manager, as with the Adaptec, but Explorer, SeaTools, FDisk fail to see it. Maybe it's just a PEBKAC, because I have zero experience working with SCSI drives.

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-15, 07:35:

Disks and backplanes are usually the devices fitted with an SCA connector. The SCSI controller card side of the bus usually has a standard 68pin connector.

I did see a motherboard once with a connector that looked like a small SCA connector though, Im sure it was an Intel manufactured board, I have a vague memory of it being something to do with the graphics though. No idea how or why.

I have not much experience but i think that SCA is only a mechanical convenience for the hot swap drive.

AlessandroB wrote on 2024-01-15, 11:06:

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-01-15, 07:35:

Disks and backplanes are usually the devices fitted with an SCA connector. The SCSI controller card side of the bus usually has a standard 68pin connector.

I did see a motherboard once with a connector that looked like a small SCA connector though, Im sure it was an Intel manufactured board, I have a vague memory of it being something to do with the graphics though. No idea how or why.

I have not much experience but i think that SCA is only a mechanical convenience for the hot swap drive.

Yes, that is certainly my experience of it.
There is no need to set jumpers on the drive for ID etc, you just slot it into the bay and thats it. Ive had to do exactly that a few times over the years. when hot swapping failed drives its worth its weight in gold to keep your uptime high.

songoffall wrote on 2024-01-15, 09:32:

Well, I was right about not celebrating too early. The HDD does spin up and shows up in device manager, as with the Adaptec, but Explorer, SeaTools, FDisk fail to see it. Maybe it's just a PEBKAC, because I have zero experience working with SATA drives.

SATA? :-p

darry wrote on 2024-01-15, 06:30:

weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:55:

darry wrote on 2024-01-14, 17:40:

I actually did look, but I did miss the word "external" in your question, apologies. I was referring to the internal connectors. That and TBH, I did not even notice that there were external connectors until I read your reply to my answer.

np, The internal ones are normal 68p wide scsi though still not SCA in any way 😀

Yet more proof that I should be more attentive . Too late for new year's resolutions ? 😉

You still make new years resolutions ? 😳

A SCA like connector for a graphics memory upgrade, that rings a bell, somewhere.