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Reply 200 of 228, by Shponglefan

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Currently up 682 backers.

In tracking this kickstarter the past couple weeks, I've noticed they are doing something sneaky. They had previously sold out of the $349 option. It's now back showing 6 available slots out of 260 total. However, it did not previously have a total 260, it was actually lower than that (I think it was 250?).

I also notice the $379 option has been showing 989 slots out of 1000 available with that number not changing in the past week despite the number of backers going up.

It looks like what they are doing is continuously increasing the number of available slots for the $349 tier. This makes it look like that tier is always on the verge of selling out, which would create added pressure for people to back the project at a lower price sooner than later.

Not sure what the legality is from a consumer rights perspective. If nothing else, it's an underhanded sales tactic.

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Reply 201 of 228, by Ozzuneoj

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Shponglefan wrote on 2025-11-20, 15:37:
Currently up 682 backers. […]
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Currently up 682 backers.

In tracking this kickstarter the past couple weeks, I've noticed they are doing something sneaky. They had previously sold out of the $349 option. It's now back showing 6 available slots out of 260 total. However, it did not previously have a total 260, it was actually lower than that (I think it was 250?).

I also notice the $379 option has been showing 989 slots out of 1000 available with that number not changing in the past week despite the number of backers going up.

It looks like what they are doing is continuously increasing the number of available slots for the $349 tier. This makes it look like that tier is always on the verge of selling out, which would create added pressure for people to back the project at a lower price sooner than later.

Not sure what the legality is from a consumer rights perspective. If nothing else, it's an underhanded sales tactic.

Keep in mind people can just give them a dollar and be counted as a backer.

As for the number of slots silently changing on the lowest tier, I haven't looked at it myself but it wouldn't surprise me either. Regarding legality though, I don't think Creative has anything to worry about. I'm pretty sure that Kickstarter backers have absolutely zero consumer rights because they are never considered actual customers. They are pledging money to a cause that they believe in, with a promise that they'll get a reward for it at some point in the future. If Creative does anything that seems anti-consumer (including never providing any products\rewards), Kickstarter has no involvement since they aren't a selling platform. It is up to the backers to file a law suit against them directly... and then win, of course, against a huge corporation.

This is why Kickstarter campaigns by multi million\billion dollar companies is a very weird and unbalanced thing. Backers are literally just stuffing money into the satchel of a huge corporation and then waving them goodbye, like "Okay, I'll just wait here! I'm looking forward to my rewards, but take your time!" as the CEO slinks back into the building and locks the door behind him... and there is no more obligation for anything further to happen.

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Reply 202 of 228, by Shponglefan

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That a good point about backers being anyone that pledges anything. So the backer numbers may not be complete list of people effectively pre-ordering the Re:Imagine itself.

And confirmed they are increasing the total slots for the $349 tier. They're up to 689 backers and the $349 tier now shows 3 of 265 slots available. And the $379 tier shows 988 of 1000.

Kind of sucks for the 12 people who backed the more expensive tier, because they could have waited and just picked the $349 tier, as if the latter keeps increasing it will never actually run out.

Doing some more math, they are up to ~$225k USD right now with 36 days to go. Assuming they keep extending the $349 tier to hit $500k they need 788 more backers or an average of 22 per day.

Currently they are averaging about 5 a day.

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Reply 203 of 228, by Dominus

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Kind of sucks for the 12 people who backed the more expensive tier

They can still change their pledge, though.

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Reply 204 of 228, by soundblasterx

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Even when 329 is available, there are already several who backed 379.

There are people who are generous, kind and wished Creative well. They deliberately backed 379 to wish them well.

Yes, you can always changed/removed pledge at Kickstarter before 27 Dec 2025.

In addition, Creative offers 30 day returns.

Nothing surprising at all.

Their current acting CEO is leaving next 15 Jan. They are looking for a new CEO.

If you are think you are good enough and can ride and help the turning point, go and apply.

Reply 205 of 228, by badmojo

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soundblasterx wrote on 2025-11-22, 02:21:

If you are think you are good enough and can ride and help the turning point, go and apply.

Is everything OK with you buddy?

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Reply 206 of 228, by leileilol

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smells like astroturf in here, honestly

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Reply 207 of 228, by Dominus

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soundblasterx wrote on 2025-11-22, 02:21:
Even when 329 is available, there are already several who backed 379. […]
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Even when 329 is available, there are already several who backed 379.

There are people who are generous, kind and wished Creative well. They deliberately backed 379 to wish them well.

Yes, you can always changed/removed pledge at Kickstarter before 27 Dec 2025.

In addition, Creative offers 30 day returns.

Nothing surprising at all.

Their current acting CEO is leaving next 15 Jan. They are looking for a new CEO.

If you are think you are good enough and can ride and help the turning point, go and apply.

Sorry to have to say this, but soundblasterx, you sound as if you are a paid marketeer of Creative. Registering here right for this Kickstarter, location is also fitting and your points and inside knowledge...

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Reply 208 of 228, by shevalier

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soundblasterx wrote on 2025-11-22, 02:21:

Their current acting CEO is leaving next 15 Jan. They are looking for a new CEO.

If you are think you are good enough and can ride and help the turning point, go and apply.

I'm afraid the only person who can help in this situation is Gabe Newell.
Because he has SteamOS.
But personally, he probably won't be interested, because he already has the Steam Store.

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Reply 210 of 228, by sunkindly

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If Creative truly wants to cater to the retro computing crowd, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were at the very least monitoring this thread. And if they’re not, it’d be smart to for the free constructive feedback haha.

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Reply 211 of 228, by badmojo

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If they are then the quality of their marketing is in line with the quality of their product - neither make any sense

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Reply 212 of 228, by soundblasterx

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It's ok if people choose to think otherwise.

They managed to sell 9 over the past 24h and they topped up 349 again.

Had expected their sales to be 0-3 everyday till the end and maybe some will drop out.

Very sure most of the 12 who pledged 379 will not drop out, reasons already stated before.

If you check their login, they actually login almost everyday to top up. Because of the deemed wrong higher pricing that they cannot reversed easily, this is only what they can do. If there is big demand to eat into the next tier, they will let it roll over. Otherwise, they just top up say 5 each time.

As stated before, it depends on two things. How well they can implement the software including latency, compatibility and dos games audio emulation.

They should be extremely busy if they wanted to achieve these two. Then you can easily see thousands of units sold next Dec.

Don't think they will monitor this forum. They got a lot of constructive feedback via email, Kickstarter, PM. They have very few staff now and should be very busy everyday if they want things to turn around.

Reply 213 of 228, by badmojo

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soundblasterx wrote on 2025-11-24, 06:11:

Don't think they will monitor this forum.

So you're not someone they hired to scan the internet for mention of this thing and try and sell it? You just happened to join with that username at this time and have only commented in this thread?

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Reply 214 of 228, by Shponglefan

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soundblasterx wrote on 2025-11-24, 06:11:

As stated before, it depends on two things. How well they can implement the software including latency, compatibility and dos games audio emulation.

They should be extremely busy if they wanted to achieve these two. Then you can easily see thousands of units sold next Dec.

What does this even mean?

Low latency seems a given for any serious audio device. If latency is an issue, this thing is cooked.

DOS audio emulation seems rather pointless. DOSBox already does this, so it's not clear what this device is supposed to offer in that respect. And if one is looking for a retro DOS device, things like the Pixel x86 already exist which has real DOS supported audio (Crystal audio and wavetable header), not just emulation.

Again, it's still not clear what problems this device is trying to solve that have not already been solved.

The low response to the kickstarter just reinforces this. In contrast look at something like the Vectrex Mini console. Its Kickstarter has thousands of backers and ~$1M USD raised so far.

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Reply 215 of 228, by kolderman

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Another way to picture it - imagine if some unknown brand put this up on ks instead of creative. Would we even be talking about it?

Reply 216 of 228, by Dominus

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kolderman wrote on 2025-11-24, 17:03:

Another way to picture it - imagine if some unknown brand put this up on ks instead of creative. Would we even be talking about it?

I‘m pretty sure, we wouldn’t

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Reply 218 of 228, by Shponglefan

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As of today, they are now at 714 713 backers. While the number has fluctuated over the past 72 hours, they've lost a net one two backers during that time.

I'm also surprised at the distinct lack of marketing for this. I see they have some things posted to Facebook. But on Youtube they have virtually no presence other than what looks like a single video on a new Youtube channel.

This also doesn't seem to be covered by any tech Youtubers, which is again a bit surprising they didn't try to take advantage of that.

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Reply 219 of 228, by Dominus

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I'm also surprised at the distinct lack of marketing for this. I see they have some things posted to Facebook. But on Youtube they have virtually no presence other than what looks like a single video on a new Youtube channel.

Now that you mention this, it’s very strange that they don’t market this more (except for sending out one guy to this thread). It’s as if they don’t want it to be a huge success. Yes, it’s funded but 700+ backers is not an overwhelming success

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