cydvog wrote on Yesterday, 12:35:

AlexZ wrote on 2026-04-28, 17:56:

GeForce 4 MX440 (128 bit) or GeForce FX5500 and PIII Katmai 600 would be good upgrade for this system. Better GPUs could use a much better CPU.

İ put on mobo v9180se asus geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x .

Performance noot good either.

That looks like a 64-bit memory bus card to me.
Probably faster than the TnT2 M64, but still not ideal.
Geforce 2 GTS, Geforce 2MX 128 bit, even, with an earlier driver would be a big upgrade.

+1 on the Coppermine CPU. Fastest you can find, be a perfect Windows 98 PC.

Jasin Natael wrote on Yesterday, 13:04:

Probably faster than the TnT2 M64, but still not ideal.

2x faster

AlexZ wrote on Yesterday, 12:48:

Post 3d mark 99 scores for 800x600x16bit and 1024x768x32bit […]
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Post 3d mark 99 scores for 800x600x16bit and 1024x768x32bit

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/riva-tnt2-m64.c1304
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-v9180-se.b1859

ASUS V9180 SE is at least 2x faster than NVIDIA Riva TNT2 M64, despite being a cheap 64bit model.

The next possible upgrade is GeForce FX 5200 or 5500, which is about 2x faster than GeForce MX4 440.

In a perfect world, maybe, but on a P3, there is still a pretty significant CPU limiting factor.

If you use just about any video card released after 1999, 3d mark 99 is mainly a CPU benchmark. A geforce MX is going to benchmark really close to a radeon 9800 pro.

On an 800Mhz P3, 3dmark 2000 & quake 3, all benchmark within 10% for a Geforce 2, Geforce MX family, and Geforce FX5200 as long as they had at least 128 bit SDR or 64 bit DDR memory. They seemed to be substantially CPU limited. But if you get a gimpy 64bit SDR or 32 bit DDR MX card things will be ~30% slower.

With a faster CPU like a Barton 2500+, the Geforce 2 card starts to pull ahead in 3dmark 2000, and both the Geforce 2 and the FX5200 were about 50% faster in Quake 3.

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rasz_pl wrote on Yesterday, 13:32:

Jasin Natael wrote on Yesterday, 13:04:

Probably faster than the TnT2 M64, but still not ideal.

2x faster

Yeah, sounds pretty much spot on. Probably not a leaving much performance on the table with the lower clocked P3.
Upgrade to a faster Coppermine chip though, and that delta becomes more evident.