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The quest for the perfect retro laptop: a saga

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Reply 400 of 928, by vorob

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Reply 401 of 928, by Warlord

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never experienced screen jerking like that on mine.

Reply 402 of 928, by vorob

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Did you play build games? Cause in other dos games I don't catch such stuff.

Reply 403 of 928, by Warlord

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ya ive tested them mine doesnt do that, try hooking yours up to an external monitor and see if its still does that. could be your lcd

Reply 404 of 928, by Warlord

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might be the inverter board for the lcd

Reply 406 of 928, by Spitz

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vorob wrote on 2021-01-27, 22:18:
I have it! I have it! My Toshiba 2805 with Geforce 2go finally arrived! As described, screen is burned, but I've got another Tos […]
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I have it! I have it! My Toshiba 2805 with Geforce 2go finally arrived! As described, screen is burned, but I've got another Toshiba with Savage videocard, so I've switched the screens and now I've got perfect machine. Even hinges are perfectly fine. Already tested stuff and everything is working fine.

Only one thing bothers me: build games (duke 3d, blood) got some screen jerking from time to time: https://youtu.be/z-l3V0MXOzk

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Tried even under dos mode, same stuff.

Try to load some VESA driver under DOS. These can be found in some DOS games or here somewere on Vogons - uni VBE. After loading it under dos run Blood setup and choose 640x480 or 800x600. Let us know it that help.

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Reply 407 of 928, by vorob

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I need some additional testing, but looks like 320x200 doesn't produce such glitches, I only see it in high resolution. Both in native dos and win 98.

Warlord, did you test it in 320x200 or higher?

Reply 408 of 928, by Warlord

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like I said before my laptop doesn't have that issue. I don't have any strange artifacts, or screen res issues. Might has something to so with the LCD you replaced your broken LCD with.

try some of these fixes on this page and see if it helps you. https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/
can you also try slowing down your cpu.

Reply 409 of 928, by Spitz

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I know that it's the same laptop we are speaking about but there's always probability that there are some differences (rev, builds etc.)

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Reply 410 of 928, by vorob

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Actually, it's not the same, it's similar. Mine is 603 and Warlord has 402. I've got some strange slot called SmartMedia under DVD-ROM. Also, the modem slot is different and usess another type of connection (I've got 401 model and can compare). Maybe they are using another revision of geforce 2, I dunno. But so far these two build games are the only ones that gave me a headache

Reply 411 of 928, by Warlord

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maybe a good compromise is to add a audigy2 zs into the mix for sound in some windows games. I have the cardbus version but I have never tried using it. I wonder if like the PCI card you can force Audigy 1 vxd drivers to install on it. I read that duke3d works on audigy2zs

Reply 412 of 928, by Spitz

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vorob wrote on 2021-01-28, 20:26:

Actually, it's not the same, it's similar. Mine is 603 and Warlord has 402. I've got some strange slot called SmartMedia under DVD-ROM. Also, the modem slot is different and usess another type of connection (I've got 401 model and can compare). Maybe they are using another revision of geforce 2, I dunno. But so far these two build games are the only ones that gave me a headache

There You go:

https://dosdriver.de/download/univbe.zip

And:

https://dosdriver.de/download/vesadrv.zip

Let us know if it done some good....

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Reply 413 of 928, by Warlord

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thanks hopfully that helps somone, but our laptops use nvidia which are VBe 3.0 already and don't use are need univbe. or vesa drivers, nor will any of those programs or tsrs work with them.
however a program like
Rob Muller drivers may help in some cases
vbeplus https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/vbeplus.zip

vesa12 https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/vesa12.zip

Modified univbe.drv https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/modified.zip

UniRefresh https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/unirfrsh.zip

Reply 414 of 928, by Spitz

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Warlord wrote on 2021-01-29, 01:21:
thanks hopfully that helps somone, but our laptops use nvidia which are VBe 3.0 already and don't use are need univbe. or vesa […]
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thanks hopfully that helps somone, but our laptops use nvidia which are VBe 3.0 already and don't use are need univbe. or vesa drivers, nor will any of those programs or tsrs work with them.
however a program like
Rob Muller drivers may help in some cases
vbeplus https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/vbeplus.zip

vesa12 https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/vesa12.zip

Modified univbe.drv https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/modified.zip

UniRefresh https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/unirfrsh.zip

Univbe works on my nvidia geforce 4 go 4200 😀

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Reply 415 of 928, by Warlord

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anyways between all the files spitz posted and I posted try some things and see if it doesn't help.

Reply 416 of 928, by Warlord

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vorob wrote on 2021-01-14, 08:40:

Well, this Toshiba 5205 is surprisingly unfriendly dos the laptop. It doesn't have BIOS and will alter its brightness only via Windows app, if you go into dos brightness will be always on minimum. Also, like I mentioned above, I've got some strange artifacts in dos games. Later dell with GeForce 4200 doesn't have them. It's strange.

you can change the brightness in the bios. Theres also a utility called Toshiba Hardware Setup that allows you to enter the bios from the command prompt and you can change the brightness there. I don't have the laptop in front of me but I am 100% sure of that. In the bios you must select "User Define" under power options.

Reply 417 of 928, by vorob

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This thing was fixed with NOLFB patch (http://dnr.duke4.net/patches.php.html). I've tried under Win 98 and it worked, then I've tried under clean DOS, launched without patch and screen flashes, then activated patch and all is fine.

NOLFB disables the linear framebuffer in VESA 2.0+ BIOS

I didn't see any chance in picture quality, wonder what I've lost?)

Reply 418 of 928, by Spitz

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Great! You can now enjoy retrobrew without issuses 😁

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Reply 419 of 928, by Warlord

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glad u found a way, can you test if vesa12 has the same effect. It should do the same thing as noflb.