Probably stripped screw holes. I've thrown away some cases for that reason as well.

Sir Im not recycler Im vintage hardware and software collector. Ofcourse I will not miss that oportunity to sell something on ebay. But I have my own stash. Spent half night setting up dual boot on my new P2 400

to3cutter wrote on 2024-06-01, 10:05:

Car plate is visible.

to3cutter wrote on 2024-06-01, 10:05:

Sir Im not recycler Im vintage hardware and software collector. Ofcourse I will not miss that oportunity to sell something on ebay. But I have my own stash. Spent half night setting up dual boot on my new P2 400

Spotted a Plextor PlexWriter 40/12/40A, really nice drive. 😃

FYI: It's better to cut off or blur your license plate for the sake of your personal privacy.

Thx I do not care but ok thx for letting me know. Plextors gonne... I dont mind ...but I have something I never saw my entire life...

Win98 says its pci multimedia device 🤔

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-16, 20:47:

Last summer I bought a Pentium 3 system for cheap, and I didn't pay attention to the video card that was in it. I pulled it and installed a Quadro 2 for testing and forgot about it. I had a closer look at it yesterday, and it's a 32 megabyte Creative CT6870 TNT2 Ultra. I was assuming it was a GeForce 4 MX or something.

Pretty sure thats supposed to have a fan.
I know my Creative TNT2-U has one, a noisy one.
The fanheader looks desoldered, and the only pic of a card with just a heatsink may very well be the exact same card =)

Spotless new old stock Logitech Pilot Mouse just arrived in the mail today. This works on both PS2 and Serial ports (with the included passive adapter.)
Tested it and working really well.

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2024-05-31, 20:43:

Better pic & software package... […]
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ChrisK wrote on 2024-05-31, 06:25:

Bought this Millenium G400 for cheap. Was advertized as unknown & untested ATI card. Well... Works fine. Mil_G400_32G.jpg […]
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Bought this Millenium G400 for cheap. Was advertized as unknown & untested ATI card. Well...
Works fine.
Mil_G400_32G.jpg

Learned there was a "Flat Panel" add-on for this card sold by Matrox:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010417075607/ht … _panel_g400.cfm

Best picture I could find:
Add-On Flat Panel.jpg

It connects to the long single row pin header next to the VGA connector.
Did anyone ever see this part in the wild or has a better picture of it?
I wonder how much voodoo is on this card besides the SiliconImage chip...

Better pic & software package...

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Matro … 0_flatpanel.JPG

https://archive.org/details/matrox-g400-flat-panel

Wow, that's new information!
Didn't think of the up's and down's of practical usage yet but reading the info on archive.org it doesn't seem to be a very delightful user experience in general.
As of now I understood it to be "just" a second display port. But needing a special driver seems to be ... some kind of drawback. Of course there has to be some drawback...

@ Kahenraz: Does the G200 add-on use the same Silicon Image Sil164 chip as is used for the G400?

Put some vintage industrial vga cards on the VGAMUSEUM.INFO
https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … nologies-b69030
https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … s-b65554-hiqv64

demiurge wrote on 2024-06-01, 17:30:

Got some vintage industrial vga cards on the VGAMUSEUM.INFO
https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … nologies-b69030
https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … s-b65554-hiqv64

Neat! I actually saw one of those FB-RTAGP cards a while back and was considering grabbing it. There's just something oddly interesting about a graphics chip with RAM integrated, like the Savage IX. That board is huge for how little is on it. I'm guessing it only needs to be that big because of all the connectors on it.

The other one looks like it'd be useful for some kind of absurd retro PC with an integrated (LVDS) display.

bofh.fromhell wrote on 2024-06-01, 13:32:

Pretty sure thats supposed to have a fan. I know my Creative TNT2-U has one, a noisy one. The fanheader looks desoldered, and th […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-16, 20:47:

Last summer I bought a Pentium 3 system for cheap, and I didn't pay attention to the video card that was in it. I pulled it and installed a Quadro 2 for testing and forgot about it. I had a closer look at it yesterday, and it's a 32 megabyte Creative CT6870 TNT2 Ultra. I was assuming it was a GeForce 4 MX or something.

Pretty sure thats supposed to have a fan.
I know my Creative TNT2-U has one, a noisy one.
The fanheader looks desoldered, and the only pic of a card with just a heatsink may very well be the exact same card =)

It's pretty easy to find other examples of this make and model with the same heat sink with no fan and no pins in the fan power header. Maybe they were for some OEM systems?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/CT6870-CREATIVE-LA … -AGP/1152143524

PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-30, 17:10:

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully). https:// […]
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'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully).

Top:

• Inno3d FX 5500 128MB
• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• Palit TNT2 M64 32MB (that golden PCB lookin' sweet 😀 )
• Supergrace S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP
• Sparkle GF4 MX440-8X 64MB
• ATI Rage LT Pro AGP

Middle:

• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• "ST Labs" Geforce 2 MX
• Sapphire Radeon 9250
• Powercolor S3 Trio 3D AGP
• Dell OEM adapter - laptop IDE format to standard PATA
• a few I/O shields

Bottom row:

• unknown MX440-8X w/ DVI
• PCChips ATX form card w/o cable
• ASUS USB/MIR form card
• Sparkle 8400GS Rev II 512MB (needs a HSF 😀 )
• Sparkle GF4 MX4000
• PCChips ATX form card w/ cable
• "MS" Radeon X300SE
• ALi M5273 USB card
• Diamond Multimedia S3 Savage 4 SDRAM
• Winfast A340 128MB - FX5200
• Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Digital SB0220

EDIT:

• ASUS P5B-VM + C2D E4400
• MSI GF615M-P33 + some AM3 Sempron
• ASUS M4N68T-M + Athlon II X2 250
• ECS P6STP-FL + VIA C3 "Ezra" 800A

Not a bad selection of hardware!

One thing though... I think that green card with the silver heatsink in the center is an FX5200, rather than an MX4000 (Google search results seem a bit inconsistent and Sparkle seems to have used SP7310 for different cards). With all 8 memory chips on one side, it is probably a 128bit card, which isn't common for an MX4000... they are often only 32bit (blegh!).

Anyway, if the caps are good a 128bit 5200 is a decent card for a Win9x build and you don't have to worry about it having a bad fan since it is passive. 😀

I don't normally buy or collect CRTs, the only one I have is a C1084S for my Amiga. But I saw this listed for a good figure and I had to get it to pair with my Olivetti PCS286.

It got to me a few weeks ago but I could not bring myself to open the package and look at the potenrial shipping horror. To my surprise it was incredibly well packaged and came unharmed.

I tested it tonight. Aside from a badly corroded vga connector I need to replace, it works fine.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-01, 20:57:

Not a bad selection of hardware! […]
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PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-30, 17:10:

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully). https:// […]
Show full quote

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully).

Top:

• Inno3d FX 5500 128MB
• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• Palit TNT2 M64 32MB (that golden PCB lookin' sweet 😀 )
• Supergrace S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP
• Sparkle GF4 MX440-8X 64MB
• ATI Rage LT Pro AGP

Middle:

• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• "ST Labs" Geforce 2 MX
• Sapphire Radeon 9250
• Powercolor S3 Trio 3D AGP
• Dell OEM adapter - laptop IDE format to standard PATA
• a few I/O shields

Bottom row:

• unknown MX440-8X w/ DVI
• PCChips ATX form card w/o cable
• ASUS USB/MIR form card
• Sparkle 8400GS Rev II 512MB (needs a HSF 😀 )
• Sparkle GF4 MX4000
• PCChips ATX form card w/ cable
• "MS" Radeon X300SE
• ALi M5273 USB card
• Diamond Multimedia S3 Savage 4 SDRAM
• Winfast A340 128MB - FX5200
• Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Digital SB0220

EDIT:

• ASUS P5B-VM + C2D E4400
• MSI GF615M-P33 + some AM3 Sempron
• ASUS M4N68T-M + Athlon II X2 250
• ECS P6STP-FL + VIA C3 "Ezra" 800A

Not a bad selection of hardware!

One thing though... I think that green card with the silver heatsink in the center is an FX5200, rather than an MX4000 (Google search results seem a bit inconsistent and Sparkle seems to have used SP7310 for different cards). With all 8 memory chips on one side, it is probably a 128bit card, which isn't common for an MX4000... they are often only 32bit (blegh!).

Anyway, if the caps are good a 128bit 5200 is a decent card for a Win9x build and you don't have to worry about it having a bad fan since it is passive. 😀

It's a MX4000 though. 128bit somehow, according to their label.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-06-01, 21:26:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-01, 20:57:

Not a bad selection of hardware! […]
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PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-30, 17:10:

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully). https:// […]
Show full quote

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully).

Top:

• Inno3d FX 5500 128MB
• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• Palit TNT2 M64 32MB (that golden PCB lookin' sweet 😀 )
• Supergrace S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP
• Sparkle GF4 MX440-8X 64MB
• ATI Rage LT Pro AGP

Middle:

• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• "ST Labs" Geforce 2 MX
• Sapphire Radeon 9250
• Powercolor S3 Trio 3D AGP
• Dell OEM adapter - laptop IDE format to standard PATA
• a few I/O shields

Bottom row:

• unknown MX440-8X w/ DVI
• PCChips ATX form card w/o cable
• ASUS USB/MIR form card
• Sparkle 8400GS Rev II 512MB (needs a HSF 😀 )
• Sparkle GF4 MX4000
• PCChips ATX form card w/ cable
• "MS" Radeon X300SE
• ALi M5273 USB card
• Diamond Multimedia S3 Savage 4 SDRAM
• Winfast A340 128MB - FX5200
• Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Digital SB0220

EDIT:

• ASUS P5B-VM + C2D E4400
• MSI GF615M-P33 + some AM3 Sempron
• ASUS M4N68T-M + Athlon II X2 250
• ECS P6STP-FL + VIA C3 "Ezra" 800A

Not a bad selection of hardware!

One thing though... I think that green card with the silver heatsink in the center is an FX5200, rather than an MX4000 (Google search results seem a bit inconsistent and Sparkle seems to have used SP7310 for different cards). With all 8 memory chips on one side, it is probably a 128bit card, which isn't common for an MX4000... they are often only 32bit (blegh!).

Anyway, if the caps are good a 128bit 5200 is a decent card for a Win9x build and you don't have to worry about it having a bad fan since it is passive. 😀

It's a MX4000 though. 128bit somehow, according to their label.

I have one with 128bit bus too and was very surprised. I thought they were all 64bit. (According to wikipedia)
Mine is clocked slower than a MX440, so I could not find any use to it.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-06-01, 21:26:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-06-01, 20:57:

Not a bad selection of hardware! […]
Show full quote

PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-30, 17:10:

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully). https:// […]
Show full quote

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully).

Top:

• Inno3d FX 5500 128MB
• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• Palit TNT2 M64 32MB (that golden PCB lookin' sweet 😀 )
• Supergrace S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP
• Sparkle GF4 MX440-8X 64MB
• ATI Rage LT Pro AGP

Middle:

• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• "ST Labs" Geforce 2 MX
• Sapphire Radeon 9250
• Powercolor S3 Trio 3D AGP
• Dell OEM adapter - laptop IDE format to standard PATA
• a few I/O shields

Bottom row:

• unknown MX440-8X w/ DVI
• PCChips ATX form card w/o cable
• ASUS USB/MIR form card
• Sparkle 8400GS Rev II 512MB (needs a HSF 😀 )
• Sparkle GF4 MX4000
• PCChips ATX form card w/ cable
• "MS" Radeon X300SE
• ALi M5273 USB card
• Diamond Multimedia S3 Savage 4 SDRAM
• Winfast A340 128MB - FX5200
• Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Digital SB0220

EDIT:

• ASUS P5B-VM + C2D E4400
• MSI GF615M-P33 + some AM3 Sempron
• ASUS M4N68T-M + Athlon II X2 250
• ECS P6STP-FL + VIA C3 "Ezra" 800A

Not a bad selection of hardware!

One thing though... I think that green card with the silver heatsink in the center is an FX5200, rather than an MX4000 (Google search results seem a bit inconsistent and Sparkle seems to have used SP7310 for different cards). With all 8 memory chips on one side, it is probably a 128bit card, which isn't common for an MX4000... they are often only 32bit (blegh!).

Anyway, if the caps are good a 128bit 5200 is a decent card for a Win9x build and you don't have to worry about it having a bad fan since it is passive. 😀

It's a MX4000 though. 128bit somehow, according to their label.

Oh wow, my mistake, that's a pretty unusual card for sure!

GPU-Zoo has a very comprehensive database of card specs, and it looks like only 7 out of around 40 MX4000 cards listed have a 128bit interface, including yours which will probably have 166Mhz (333 DDR) memory.

... it's really sad that EVGA even sold a 32bit model with only 133Mhz (266 DDR) memory. That is 25% less actual memory bandwidth than a Geforce2 MX200. 🤢

... so yeah, as far as MX4000s go, yours is actually pretty decent.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-06-01, 09:40:

Probably stripped screw holes. I've thrown away some cases for that reason as well.

They're getting hard enough to get hold of in any condition now, that I'd prolly just peen the edges of the holes in with a punch and re-tap them.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-06-02, 00:21:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-06-01, 09:40:

Probably stripped screw holes. I've thrown away some cases for that reason as well.

They're getting hard enough to get hold of in any condition now, that I'd prolly just peen the edges of the holes in with a punch and re-tap them.

I just got rid of a old ATX case from probably late 90's or early 2000's.

Metal was super thin, and it had multiple stripped holes.

I'm not even sure how the screws stayed in when the case was brand new.

My jam is old Lian-Li cases as well as other well-made cases. This one was the complete opposite quality-wise.

appiah4 wrote on 2024-06-01, 21:11:

I don't normally buy or collect CRTs, the only one I have is a C1084S for my Amiga. But I saw this listed for a good figure and I had to get it to pair with my Olivetti PCS286.

It got to me a few weeks ago but I could not bring myself to open the package and look at the potenrial shipping horror. To my surprise it was incredibly well packaged and came unharmed.

I tested it tonight. Aside from a badly corroded vga connector I need to replace, it works fine.

That's the same monitor I have for my 386SX build 🙂

cyclone3d wrote on 2024-06-02, 01:05:

I just got rid of a old ATX case from probably late 90's or early 2000's.

Metal was super thin, and it had multiple stripped holes.

I'm not even sure how the screws stayed in when the case was brand new.

Because it was so thin and floppy, and also likely badly made, when holes in panels line up they don't quite, and so a screw forced in stays 😀 An engineering triumph, the accountants thought.

2000s computing! It's like the component manufacturers were getting stuff of Napster, too: The Xing codec, 32k MP3 of computer cases.