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Reply 57600 of 57603, by Nexxen

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Got, for free, 124 ram sticks:
- 30p (13)
- 72p (37)
- PC66 / 100 / 133 (74)

How do I test 30p? Does 72p work with Memtest?
It is better to memtest with one stick at a time or just go all sockets? Ain't gonna go down all at once, this is gonna takes months.
This is 🤣...

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Reply 57601 of 57603, by pete8475

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Nexxen wrote on Today, 17:40:
Got, for free, 124 ram sticks: - 30p (13) - 72p (37) - PC66 / 100 / 133 (74) […]
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Got, for free, 124 ram sticks:
- 30p (13)
- 72p (37)
- PC66 / 100 / 133 (74)

How do I test 30p? Does 72p work with Memtest?
It is better to memtest with one stick at a time or just go all sockets? Ain't gonna go down all at once, this is gonna takes months.
This is 🤣...

30pin I've never memtested but 72pin stuff definitely works with the old versions of Memtest86. I usually use 4.3.7

Reply 57602 of 57603, by dionb

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Disruptor wrote on Today, 10:32:
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Can you post one or two pictures of the ET4000 please?
I'd like to look at the traces to the OLB connector in detail.
If it is just one (or 2 or 3) slot it is very likely NOT EISA. Next hint would be the sticker on the BIOS chip, then the chipset itself.

I could have a look later, but I know full well it's not EISA:

- it has "Local bus" printed on the PCB
- it works in a motherboard with a single "UMC Local Bus" slot, which is identical to OPTi Local Bus
(I wasn't 100% sure of the latter, but I know this card is an OPTi Local Bus card and it works without smoke & flames in the ULB slot)

luckybob wrote on Today, 17:19:

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that card is 110% SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE - it only works in that exact slot, on that exact board.

Not that extreme, there were quite a few boards with OPTi local bus. This is the only one I know with UMC local bus though.

Now the ECS Local Bus, that's more of a snowflake. Only used on one or two boards, 100% physically identical to VLB, but most definitely not electrically. I found that out the hard way. Magic smoke was emitted 🙁

Nexxen wrote on Today, 17:40:
Got, for free, 124 ram sticks: - 30p (13) - 72p (37) - PC66 / 100 / 133 (74) […]
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Got, for free, 124 ram sticks:
- 30p (13)
- 72p (37)
- PC66 / 100 / 133 (74)

How do I test 30p? Does 72p work with Memtest?

Memtest works with x86 CPUs. If you have a version of memtest that will run on a board wth 30p SIMM slots, it can test it.

It is better to memtest with one stick at a time or just go all sockets?

Elimination.

Test with the largest number you can at the same time (8x 30p SIMM was fairly common at one point).
- If that passes, they're all good. Proceed to next batch.
- If it fails, test with half the SIMMs. Pass? They're good, the error is in the other lot.
- If that fails, you're down to four (=1 bank with 32b CPU); swap out two with the known-good SIMMs. Pass? They're good, one of the other two are bad.
- If that fails, swap one of the two remaining originals with known good. Pass? It was the other one...
- Fail? You found the dead one.
Always re-test the other half just in case, you may have more than one dead SIMM.

Reply 57603 of 57603, by Nexxen

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pete8475 wrote on Today, 17:58:

30pin I've never memtested but 72pin stuff definitely works with the old versions of Memtest86. I usually use 4.3.7

I thought it was a chipset limit. I have ver 2.x IIRC, on floppy.
I'm good then 😀

dionb wrote on Today, 18:21:
Elimination. […]
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Elimination.

Test with the largest number you can at the same time (8x 30p SIMM was fairly common at one point).
- If that passes, they're all good. Proceed to next batch.
- If it fails, test with half the SIMMs. Pass? They're good, the error is in the other lot.
- If that fails, you're down to four (=1 bank with 32b CPU); swap out two with the known-good SIMMs. Pass? They're good, one of the other two are bad.
- If that fails, swap one of the two remaining originals with known good. Pass? It was the other one...
- Fail? You found the dead one.
Always re-test the other half just in case, you may have more than one dead SIMM.

I asked for advice and got a guide 😀
I'll report back in a couple of months I think. I have stuff to do with a 386 and will do some then.
72p are socket 8 territory to play.

One last question to self as I'm probably facing EDO and FPM.
How do I tell them apart? Solution is here: How do you recognize if Memory is FPM or EDO
I love this place.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

"One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
Bare metal ist krieg.