haker120 wrote on 2022-04-13, 20:13:

Now I don't know, I paid for 64MB TI4200 so add for it Voodoo 1 and I'm good to go? […]
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Now I don't know, I paid for 64MB TI4200 so add for it Voodoo 1 and I'm good to go?

Ahh, two systems, one Piii 500MHz and second Piii 1GHz, I give up with Tualatin mod. 🤣

Also I have P4 3.0GHz as Win9X gaming machine slowed down to 1GHz because of instability.

Should I buy that XFX GeForce Ti4200? I decided to buy Voodoo3 3000 because retro and I need it. 😁

If you buy the Voodoo3 (if it is AGP) then stick with it instead and forget the rest unless you play games that takes advantage of hardware T&L and larger textures. Besides you already paid for one GeForce 4 Ti 4200.

Thanks a lot for clear and easy to understand advices @Gmlb256, the thing is ordered one is 64MB of RAM and do I need more for Win98 Gaming? For XP I have dedicated PC and it was way easier to build for me than DOS and Win9X machines.

If 64MB of RAM for GF4 TI I bought is ok then maybe hunt for V3 PCI than AGP? Swapping cards is not a problem to me but PCI of V3 would get rid of this hassle. 😀

haker120 wrote on 2022-04-13, 20:31:

Thanks a lot for clear and easy to understand advices @Gmlb256, the thing is ordered one is 64MB of RAM and do I need more for Win98 Gaming? For XP I have dedicated PC and it was way easier to build for me than DOS and Win9X machines.

You're welcome!

64MB RAM for video card is vastly enough for PIII machines. And yeah, older machines aren't that simple to build having to deal with DOS compatibility, ISA sound cards, driver maturity, etc..

If 64MB of RAM for GF4 TI I bought is ok then maybe hunt for V3 PCI than AGP? Swapping cards is not a problem to me but PCI of V3 would get rid of this hassle. 😀

Yes. Follow Meatball's advice to swap between PCI/AGP on the motherboard BIOS settings when you feel the need to use the GeForce or the Voodoo3.

I love this forum. 😁 Now I know what I want.

Now I'm honestly curious if I should upgrade graphic in my P4 build? 3GHz and probably AGP 1.5V, actual card is Radeon 9600.

haker120 wrote on 2022-04-13, 20:13:

Now I don't know, I paid for 64MB TI4200 so add for it Voodoo 1 and I'm good to go?

Pretty much apart from the comment already made that a V2 would be a better match.

I prefer V1 for late DOS systems, as there are a few DOS 3D games that only support V1. In Windows, it's just the oldest slowest option, with no real added value over V2. I had a Ti4200 and a V2 in my Tualatin P3 system running Win98SE. Very happy with it (until the motherboard died 😦 ), I have my V1 in a P3-500 system with lots of ISA for DOS sound cards - my personal little rabbit hole.

Welp, I decided to buy that XFX card, I will give it a good use. 😁 And that doesn't change my plans to own Voodoo 3 AGP or PCI, depends from availability and price. 😀

bloodem wrote on 2022-04-13, 10:46:

My recommendation for GeForce 4 Ti cards (the AGP 4X versions) is the nVIDIA driver version 30.82.
It's faster than Detonator 4x.xx and have had 0 issues with it, every game that I played / tested has worked flawlessly.

While testing my socket 754 build, I noticed something interesting.

The 40.72 driver is aware of SSE2 (says so in the Nvidia control panel) while 30.82 doesn't seem to be. If your CPU has SSE2, using that driver results in a measurable performance increase. This seems to be most evident in Quake 2 with the 3DNow! patch applied. With 40.72 drivers, my Athlon64 3000+ consistently delivers 3-4% more performance compared to 30.82. The difference is particularly noticeable in lower resolutions such as 640x480.

To sum it up I ended with 3 Voodoo 1 (all 4MB), 3 Voodoo 2 (all CT6670 12MB, one PC with SLI and I managed to get original SLI cable from Monster card but I don't think branding matters, one working custom and one unworking custom cable), Voodoo 3 2000 (smashed main chip as someone tried to separate heatsing with custom cooling but working), Voodoo 3 3000 with custom cooling and some DX7-8 cards all AGP and I doubt they'll support DX9. 😁

FioGermi wrote on 2022-04-12, 15:20:

Don't touch a Voodoo 4/5 unless you like selling your kidney on the blackmarket 🤣. Prices on those are too silly to be practical.

V3 of any kind is where its at for 3DFX. I'd argue Voodoo 1 is too, but that is only if your doing a super old 1996/1997 build. Anything later can be done with a V3.

looking at a benchmark, the voodoo 4 is worse than a voodoo 3 3500 and the 3000 isn't that good compared to the 3500

Edit: I'm late