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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 6580 of 57071, by sliderider

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smeezekitty wrote:
Not very exciting but I bought a wrapped pack of 10 diskettes for $1 […]
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Not very exciting but I bought a wrapped pack of 10 diskettes for $1

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It's more exciting than you think. When was the last time you saw floppies for sale that cheap? I've seen 10 packs for as high as $40 already.

Reply 6581 of 57071, by JidaiGeki

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Picked up some roadkill recently

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Have to at least get the latest BIOS and dig up some PC100 - it doesn't like my 512MB sticks. Not sure if the Sony burner is connected.

Also found a Celeron 1Ghz socket 370 machine next to this one. Not booting so far but it has a tobacco smell so it's been banished to the patio. Has a more generic looking case so no photo.

Reply 6582 of 57071, by Lukeno94

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It's a 440BX board apparently, so that's why it doesn't like your 512MB sticks.

Reply 6583 of 57071, by Robin4

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Indeed think that 256MB where the max sized memory back in that period.

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Reply 6584 of 57071, by meljor

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Have 4 pci usb cards (always handy), a K7 slot A 550mhz cpu, a trust voodoo2 12mb and FINALLY a voodoo4 4500 agp on the way!

Fingers crossed the card is in working condition.... have been searching for one for a very long time.

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1

Reply 6585 of 57071, by QBiN

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meljor wrote:

Have 4 pci usb cards (always handy), a K7 slot A 550mhz cpu, a trust voodoo2 12mb and FINALLY a voodoo4 4500 agp on the way!

Fingers crossed the card is in working condition.... have been searching for one for a very long time.

Ya know... This may open me up to all sorts of flaming, but, I've never been a fan of Voodoo's. I have a Voodoo2 SLI setup, and always felt the image quality was "meh". I'm sure good for the time, but still leaves much to be desired. Then I had a bad experience with a Voodoo3 with an AMD760 chipset motherboard (Asus K7V). At that point, we're talking ~2000, I purchased a Geforce 2-GTS and never looked back.

Even now on my Win98SE rig, I have my Voodoo2 SLI installed next to a Riva TNT2, and I still often choose the Riva when playing around just because the image quality is better IMHO.

Maybe I'm on crack... I dunno. I get that when Glide was the only game in town, having a Voodoo was a must for those games. Totally get it. But once options became available? It's just always been hard for me to empathize with love of Voodoo3+ for anything other than collector (rarity) value.

Reply 6586 of 57071, by HighTreason

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You might want to be careful saying things like that around here, some people can get a bit pissy about such things.

Your experiences seem similar to mine though.

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Reply 6587 of 57071, by RacoonRider

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HighTreason wrote:

You might want to be careful saying things like that around here, some people can get a bit pissy about such things.

Your experiences seem similar to mine though.

As if you were ever careful saying things around here 😒

Reply 6588 of 57071, by HighTreason

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I'm not, but then I don't give a damn what people on the net think of me and I'm not about to lie just to please the masses or get in with the 'cool kids' because that's bullshit.

I don't know QBiN, he might not want the hassle, figured I'd give him a heads-up.

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Reply 6589 of 57071, by F2bnp

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There is very little common ground between HighTreason's opinion on the other thread and the opinion expressed by QBiN here. It all relies on how you express your opinion and how open you are to the possibility that you may be forgetting specific details.

Reply 6591 of 57071, by smeezekitty

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HighTreason wrote:

I'm not, but then I don't give a damn what people on the net think of me and I'm not about to lie just to please the masses or get in with the 'cool kids' because that's bullshit.

I don't know QBiN, he might not want the hassle, figured I'd give him a heads-up.

Why so defensive?
You are not obligated to have the same opinion.

Personally I don't see anything special about Voodoo. I still wouldn't pass one up if I saw one for a good price (especially PCI)

Reply 6592 of 57071, by smeezekitty

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sliderider wrote:
smeezekitty wrote:
Not very exciting but I bought a wrapped pack of 10 diskettes for $1 […]
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Not very exciting but I bought a wrapped pack of 10 diskettes for $1

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It's more exciting than you think. When was the last time you saw floppies for sale that cheap? I've seen 10 packs for as high as $40 already.

$40 for 10? Woah

Luckily the thrift stores around here have been pricing the floppies very reasonably (probably because they think they are useless)

Last time I got about 20 for $3.

I do see them less and less often so whenever I see a pack for a few dollars, I pick it up and squirrel it away.

Reply 6593 of 57071, by meljor

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QBiN wrote:
Ya know... This may open me up to all sorts of flaming, but, I've never been a fan of Voodoo's. I have a Voodoo2 SLI setup, and […]
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meljor wrote:

Have 4 pci usb cards (always handy), a K7 slot A 550mhz cpu, a trust voodoo2 12mb and FINALLY a voodoo4 4500 agp on the way!

Fingers crossed the card is in working condition.... have been searching for one for a very long time.

Ya know... This may open me up to all sorts of flaming, but, I've never been a fan of Voodoo's. I have a Voodoo2 SLI setup, and always felt the image quality was "meh". I'm sure good for the time, but still leaves much to be desired. Then I had a bad experience with a Voodoo3 with an AMD760 chipset motherboard (Asus K7V). At that point, we're talking ~2000, I purchased a Geforce 2-GTS and never looked back.

Even now on my Win98SE rig, I have my Voodoo2 SLI installed next to a Riva TNT2, and I still often choose the Riva when playing around just because the image quality is better IMHO.

Maybe I'm on crack... I dunno. I get that when Glide was the only game in town, having a Voodoo was a must for those games. Totally get it. But once options became available? It's just always been hard for me to empathize with love of Voodoo3+ for anything other than collector (rarity) value.

I understand what you are saying. Geforce 2 was a beast back then and thanks to TnL a very good performer indeed. Before that it was different imho.

My experience with my first voodoo (v1) was simply mindblowing and nothing could touch it as far as i'm concerned. V2 was extremely fast and the possibility of sli was amazing.
Voodoo5 is just for running the old glide games with AA to make them look even better. From that point i simply wanted them all and the v4 is just to complete it (it is not a great card).

Tnt2 is not a bad card (Tnt was, but a big step forward for NV), glide just looked much better imho. By the time geforce2 came directx games started to look better and better. I opted for the MX as the gts was to expensive, it was a no-brainer against the voodoo4. It would have been a stupid decision but if i had the money for the gts maybe i would have bought the v5 instead.

My real love for Nvidia started with Geforce4Ti. So plenty of room before that to fill with voodoo's 🤣 (i have the nvida's also, never liked Ati until xt1900xt, that was an amazing card and since then i buy what is best as both are great)

Prices for 3dfx hardware are insane, but if you look hard enough and have some patience they can be found cheap.

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1

Reply 6594 of 57071, by Lukeno94

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I'm pretty content with my Voodoo 2, although I find the drivers to be mediocre (and third-party newer ones to have poor detection rates in games; then again, I have a similar issue with most chips from the time, particularly laptop ones - as ubiquitous as it was, the ATI Rage Mobility M1 drivers tend to be utterly pants!) I found the image quality to be pretty good - but then again, this was on a 19" Dell widescreen TFT monitor from about 2007/2008, not a high-grade CRT.

Reply 6595 of 57071, by brostenen

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Yeah!!!
I am on the NVIDIA wagon too. 3DfX is too expensive from what you get as I see it too.
Anyway. I am the guy who prefers TNT2 and Matrox G400 and GF2 gts for late 90's gaming.
I have two V1 cards as they are the ones that "started" it all.
For early 90's gaming, I really like Cirrus Logic or S3. Not voodoo.

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Reply 6596 of 57071, by havli

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Nice stuff has arrived today. 😀

Intel TC430HX + P166 MMX + 64MB EDO
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Closeup on the i430HX chipset
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Pentium 166 MMX with an early A3 stepping - manufactured 9th week of 1997
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This board is apparently a later revision and thus supports Pentium 233 MMX officially.
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Original driver CD and manual
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Reply 6597 of 57071, by QBiN

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Very nice 430HX reference board. Love me some 430HX for O.G. Socket 7 goodness.

Reply 6598 of 57071, by QBiN

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meljor wrote:

My real love for Nvidia started with Geforce4Ti. So plenty of room before that to fill with voodoo's 🤣 (i have the nvida's also, never liked Ati until xt1900xt, that was an amazing card and since then i buy what is best as both are great)

Prices for 3dfx hardware are insane, but if you look hard enough and have some patience they can be found cheap.

The Geforce4-Ti's were just plain good cards, and nVidia cranked out THE best drivers back then ("detonator" anyone?).

Prior to the 3D craze, I was a ATI Mach32/64 guy for the only reason that ATI always shared tech specs with the linux community, and ATI support for video acceleration features in Linux was better than the rest of the commercial chips at the time.

Reply 6599 of 57071, by HighTreason

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I miss my 4600Ti, was an ugly bastard from Asus, factory overclocked and on the toes of a stock 4800. Didn't get it until years after the 4TI was in though because they were not popular in my area, 90% of people I knew back then made do with SiS6326 or whatever crap was onboard.

I envied my friend from the states, Derek, because he had a 4800Ti from Triplex in his SuperMicro Dual-Xeon rig, beautiful card, came in an awesome case too, like this one; http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/gf4ti4200-8 … 4800se-box1.jpg Derek was awesome... Amusingly our best mate at the time was running some shitty K6 rig with a GeForce 2MX PCI that was wasted because his motherboard (And everything else in his machine) sucked... Then again, he played top-down JRPGs most so it probably worked fine for him.

Edit: By all means ignore my rambling here, but I always get nostalgic for that time and I think I can still remember all our system specs;

> Me;
> AMD Duron 750, upgraded to 950 around then.
> MSI KT3 Ultra2
> 256MB DDR
> 60GB Western Digital HDD (ATA133)
> Creative 3D Blaster GeForce 4 MX420 TV Out, Still have the box
> Other cheap no-name stuff, like a CMI8738 due to my SBLive not supporting DOS stuff
> Crap PSU made by some company like "Yong Kong Kyang Gnang Super Power Corp." with no rating

> Derek;
> 2 x Intel Xeon 2.8GHz
> SuperMicro X5DA8
> 12GB DDR (Started with 8GB)
> Ultra320 SCSI Hard Drives in RAID
> Triplex GeForce 4800Ti
> Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
> He had two Pioneer DVD burners!

> Tim;
> AMD K6-2 500MHz we thought, often overclocked with funky electronics. Liquid cooled since 1998 without new water, stank.
> Unknown crappy motherboard that had been modified from what we glimpsed; he didn't like showing us, possibly not for K6-2's. No AGP.
> 32MB EDO? RAM - We always suspected it was FPDRAM. Half of it was from his old Pentium 133. Might have been less.
> GeForce 2 MX PCI he bought on the cards launch day
> Unusually slow IDE hard drive made by Seagate. As far as we could tell, 2x8GB drives.
> AT Power supply (AT factor board and case)
> Sound Blaster 16 from his old Pentium 133.
> Windows 9X... Looked like a cross between ME and 98 and didn't work very well. Was missing system properties .cpl and winver so unknown.
> Died when liquid cooling failed and spilled green slime and mosquito larvae all over the mobo forcing him to finally replace it with an Athlon XP 2700+ he had an odd attachment to that K6 though and went to hell to make it work again. His cream colored carped had a nasty green stain on it forever after that cooling loop broke, least, until he went to prison.

> Charlote;
> Dual Pentium III-S 1.4GHz
> ASUS CUV-4?
> ATi Radeon 9800 Pro
> 2GB SDRAM
> SCSI 160 Hard Drives
> SB Live 5.1

Good times. Know I still have a bug report file from Derek's game somewhere that has all our specs written in, might try and find it.

On topic; That Intel board looks pretty neat. I have an ECS that looks similar but performs crap - must have been the poor-man's version.

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