The ones I don't get are board makers like MSI and ASRock who put proprietary versions of those interfaces on. I have an MSI Celeron board where the slot is like a couple of AMR slots mounted in reverse right next to each other... Right where the AGP slot would have been.

I remember getting that board, it was in a trash pile and I thought the slot was AGP Pro. How very disappointed I was.

Edit: Think it was this one; http://www.msi.com/product/mb/MS6178.html#hero-overview
I'll double check when I get home shortly.

*Censored*. Make me unseen this please...
MSI Panel Link/TV-out Interface (PTI). AMR Modem plus composite/S-Video video-out...
*Censored*...

Nah, man, it ain't so bad... really, it isn't. Because I have the older Slot 1 version too, imagine what a great machine one could make;

> Slot 1 Celeron 266
> Intel 810 chipset
> Onboard video with shared memory and TV-Out thanks to the wonders of PTI
> AMR Modem
> Plus the guaranteed reliability of cheap electrolytic capacitors from the late 1990s

Seems like a total winner to me 😜

Wonderful Solitaire/FreeCell machine. 10/10 would buy.

HighTreason wrote:

Nah, man, it ain't so bad... really, it isn't. Because I have the older Slot 1 version too, imagine what a great machine one cou […]
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Nah, man, it ain't so bad... really, it isn't. Because I have the older Slot 1 version too, imagine what a great machine one could make;

> Slot 1 Celeron 266
> Intel 810 chipset
> Onboard video with shared memory and TV-Out thanks to the wonders of PTI
> AMR Modem
> Plus the guaranteed reliability of cheap electrolytic capacitors from the late 1990s

Seems like a total winner to me 😜

Don't forget that you need to hook it up to a Deer 250W PSU as well!

AOpen Aeolus FX 5900 XT:

@alexanrs; Yeah, I'm sure the installation of Windows ME will proceed without any issues whatsoever, I'm sure this chipset was known for being especially stable during Windows installations.

@Lukeno94; I was thinking of using one of those Micro ATX PC100 branded ones, those were quality products them, they should still make them. I remember they had this distinct smell of burning plastic when operating, this was a useful and innovative feature because if you left the computer on at night, you would smell the burning smell and look for the source before quickly remembering to turn the computer off - thus saving electricity and extending the lifespan of your components.

I found my Slot 1 version, it's an MS6183 VER:1... Why am I tempted to grab a Celeron 266 and put this thing together with a spare MATX case I have?

@Evert; That actually looks rather well built.

I looked it up. Those slots were created so that the motherboard manufacturers wouldn't have to get every motherboard FCC certified. By putting certain components on a card instead of on the motherboard, they would only have to get that card certified once then they could use it in an infinite number of motherboard designs saving them time and money when developing new motherboards. When chipset makers started integrating those components into their chipsets, that basically killed off the need for those slots.

Just found out that my card is not just "simple" SimFUSION 6000q, it is SimFUSION 6500q - with four Radeon 9800XT cores!

And some hi-res photos:

So you just went from 11, to 22 with that card... wow.

@HighTreason: Thanks! Yeah, AOpen always did build top-quality products. I am going to replace the cooler with one of those "chinese" coolers from eBay though.

HighTreason wrote:

The ones I don't get are board makers like MSI and ASRock who put proprietary versions of those interfaces on. I have an MSI Cel […]
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The ones I don't get are board makers like MSI and ASRock who put proprietary versions of those interfaces on. I have an MSI Celeron board where the slot is like a couple of AMR slots mounted in reverse right next to each other... Right where the AGP slot would have been.

I remember getting that board, it was in a trash pile and I thought the slot was AGP Pro. How very disappointed I was.

Edit: Think it was this one; http://www.msi.com/product/mb/MS6178.html#hero-overview
I'll double check when I get home shortly.

Here is your manual:

http://static.elitesecurity.org/uploads/2/2/2 … %20MS6178c-.pdf

First parts seems to be an AMR slot.. The last part seems to be a PTI slot.

AMR (Audio Modem Riser)
The Audio/Modem Riser specification is an open industry-standard
specification that defines a hardware scalable Original Equipmet
Manufacturer (OEM) mainboard riser board and interface, which supports
both audio and modem.

The Panel link/TV-Out Interface (PTI) is a MSI in-house designed which
supportd either Panel link or TV-out function. To be able utilize both AMR
and PTI simultaneously you need to use MSI product like MS-5965 & MS-
5966 or MS-5964 & MS-5966

PanelLink TV-Out Interface = PTI

I'm curious... did anyone ever release a Micro-ATX or similar board with just one RAM slot?

Lukeno94 wrote:

I'm curious... did anyone ever release a Micro-ATX or similar board with just one RAM slot?

MICRO? with only one? Thats like intentionally selling a 3-legged horse. All i've EVER seen is 2 or 4. hell, my micro atx server board has 6 slots and 2 cpus. 😜 there's literally NO reason to shoot yourself in the foot over 1 memory slot on micro-atx.

Now if you got ITX, thats a whole different story, and 1 slot is common.

luckybob wrote:

Lukeno94 wrote:

I'm curious... did anyone ever release a Micro-ATX or similar board with just one RAM slot?

MICRO? with only one? Thats like intentionally selling a 3-legged horse. All i've EVER seen is 2 or 4. hell, my micro atx server board has 6 slots and 2 cpus. 😜 there's literally NO reason to shoot yourself in the foot over 1 memory slot on micro-atx.

Now if you got ITX, thats a whole different story, and 1 slot is common.

Well, the Intel Celeron 266 was a no-legged horse, and the i810 definitely fell into the category of a 3-legged horse... I can just see someone attempting to sell an i810 board with just one RAM slot, even in the Micro-ATX form factor.

ASUS made an ITX board for the Pavillion S7000 which took only a single DIMM. Some were regular DDR/DDR2 (Not sure) but all the ones I have seen were laptop memory as they took mobile Celeron processors from the Core 2 era (In short, they were like slow Pentium III's).

I briefly owned one of these, it was awful.

I think PCChips made some for the AMD Athlon Mobile processors too, seem to think there was one that was full ATX, took mobile Athlons and was a horrid red color with purple, green and yellow expansion slots... I suppose if you're going to make a product that's a joke, you may as well paint it in clown colors.

Edit: Was it te i810 or the i820 where the first boards had three RDRAM slots, but about 24 hours prior to launch, they discovered the system did not pass POST with that slot populated? They fixed the boards by removing the third slot (the pads and traces were left behind).

@HighTreason

that board is ITX, and they have NEVER been built with performance in mind. There are a few released in the last few years that are incredible compared to others in the same category, but are still severely limited compared to micro atx.

I don't expect particularly snappy performance from ITX motherboards, but I don't expect them to be as slow and unstable as that one.

I have a board with an Atom D 330 and nVidia ION onboard that I absolutely love despite it's lack of any expansion. It makes up for that somewhat by having like eight USB ports on the back and headers for more, as it's not a performance system expansion through USB 2.0 is fine and there isn't any real need for PCI-E, it has also always worked when I've had nothing else to get things done with. Surprising really, given that it's another Asus board and I've never really seen what the big deal was with them, silly colors and cheap Chinese PCBs that have all the integrity of a damp egg carton, this is obviously the odd one out.

I only bought it because I needed a new server and it was on offer due to being a display model along with the case it lives in, the store tried to charge me full price for the case but I told them to get lost, built the whole thing for less than £100 around 6-7 years ago, was a steal really.

As for the pavilion, it was donated by a friend after his idiot pal ruined it and stripped out anything useful as well as trashing my brand new WD Blue... He was meant to be 'fixing it up for me' despite me saying I would just do it myself and to send it with the knackered fans and blank drive. Neither of them wanted it back after I found the system was useless, nor could they care less that they cost me a hard drive so I don't talk to him anymore because he's insisted for years I know nothing about computers but his buddy who wrecks every hard drive he can get his hands on does.

A little roundup from what i bought the last few weeks in an imgur gallery.
http://imgur.com/a/se5QO

I hate people like that, HighTreason. The worst board I can remember having was the piece of MATX junk Dell put into the Inspiron 531... woeful SATA performance that was miles behind what it should've been (bear in mind this was SATA-300, and yet it performed like an old ATA-33 system, even with decently quick hard drives!). Really poor PCIe layout as well; my GeForce 8600 GTS, which was hardly a massive card, made the PCIe x1 slot totally unusable as it blocked it completely! The MCP's temperature was completely shot from the very beginning, and temperatures would fluctuate 10-15C in about 2 seconds flat, and were always really high... The only legacy provision it had was a floppy connector on the motherboard.

Nothing else on the system was any better; it shipped with half of its SATA ports disabled, the GeForce 8300 GS graphics card was a terrible joke (I'd rather have kept my ancient FX 5700 card!), an anemic "300W" Bestec power supply that couldn't deliver close to that and didn't have anywhere near enough connectors (no PCIe connectors at all, nor any Molex that I remember), all of the case connections were located in one unlabelled block, 1GB of RAM was never enough for Vista Home Premium, the DVD drive died after just a couple of years, and the motherboard ended up becoming more and more unstable, before just dying at just 4 or 5 years old (conveniently, right after I'd just given it to a friend who was in a dire financial situation, and was living on her own aged 17. Even worse; it died when I was setting it up for her.) I ended up putting a lot of money into the system just to make it usable.