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Reply 33840 of 40042, by bjwil1991

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DTC 2278D VLB I/O EIDE controller card and an AMD Am5x86-P75 am486dx5-133v16bgc that works at 3.3VDC, which'll be installed in my Packard Bell once I get the 3.3V CPU support installed on the newly acquired board, along with the RAM, BIOS chip, and so on to test it out to verify the 3.3V CPUs will work in it before setting it into my other 486, or keep it installed.

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Reply 33841 of 40042, by TheMobRules

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Just got this nice CT1770:

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From what I can tell it has a v4.05 DSP, so this must be one of those SB16 with bug-free MIDI output right?

Reply 33842 of 40042, by bjwil1991

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No hanging note bugs at all. Great choice.

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Reply 33844 of 40042, by Cyrix200+

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A Commodore PC 20-III with monitor, in their boxes. Keyboard missing unfortunately. 'Unboxing' tomorrow 😀

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Reply 33845 of 40042, by imi

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ooo nice!

...so I got a small lot of cards a few generic GPUs, TV, network cards and the like, also a handy floppy/card reader combo drive... but I got it for this card:

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so... this could either be a Radeon 9700, or 9700 pro, I didn't find anything apparent on the card to tell me....
unfortunately the cooler was very shoddily mounted and the card was slightly bent from uneven pressure apparently... so first thing I did was take the cooler off in my hopes to save the card...

so underneath it was revealed... it's "only" a 9700 (215R8CBKA13F)
but not only that, the die is also chipped 🙁 ... probably due to the uneven cooler mounting or just some force that got the card bent too.

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:sadface:

I know old athlons tend to still work with slightly chipped corners, but idk about radeons... I doubt this will even work at all still 🙁

Reply 33846 of 40042, by derSammler

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That should not cause any issues. I have some S370 Pentium III CPUs with all corners and edges chipped and they still work. There are no transistors that close to the border of the die. As long as the chipping did not cause a crack going thru the die, it should work.

TheMobRules wrote on 2020-05-08, 18:07:

Just got this nice CT1770:

From what I can tell it has a v4.05 DSP, so this must be one of those SB16 with bug-free MIDI output right?

Afaik, it is affected by the hanging notes bug, too, but only of the second, not so problematic one. At least that is what I was told about my CT1780 (same card, just a different CD interface).

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Reply 33847 of 40042, by devius

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Got a used Hercules 3D Prophet 9000. As the name implies it's a Radeon 9000 128MB card. I really like these blue Hercules cards!

Unfortunately there seems to be some graphical corruption when running some 3D tests and running the driver's built-in diagnostics tool confirms a memory problem. If I ever decide to use it in a system I'd need to debug this further.

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Reply 33848 of 40042, by imi

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derSammler wrote on 2020-05-08, 20:19:

That should not cause any issues. I have some S370 Pentium III CPUs with all corners and edges chipped and they still work. There are no transistors that close to the border of the die. As long as the chipping did not cause a crack going thru the die, it should work.

I hope so... but the slightly bent PCB also makes me doubt it's integrity.
another reason I got it was for the nice cooler, but the mounting system seems to be pretty bad... will have to find a substitute to test with... I should get some generic VGA coolers.

edit: well I looked over the cooler mounting, and it's really dumb imho, there is a rubber o-ring on each side of the PCB on the screws, so the whole large heatsink assembly is basically "floating" on the PCB as there is no point where it sits flush... no wonder the die is chipped.

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Reply 33849 of 40042, by darry

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-05-08, 14:46:

Well I'm glad it's being resolved satisfactory so far. But it just seems so weird for Newegg I've been using them since 04/05 and I've never had any issues with how they package and ship things even refurbished items. I really hope they fully resolve this for you.

I will probably never buy a refurb for which visual appearance is important (monitor or anything with a screen) again if it is not graded within a clearly defined grading system . Even then, that says nothing about packing quality .

The 2007FPB I got from an amazon reseller was extremely well packaged. I was expecting newegg.ca to be at least on par . Then again, I should probably blame the refurbisher for the shoddy packing .

Reply 33850 of 40042, by cyclone3d

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darry wrote on 2020-05-08, 14:33:
They will pay for return shipping . I said would prefer a replacement if possible. They will refund me if not possible . Conside […]
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darry wrote on 2020-05-08, 04:31:

The worst of it is that I paid 40$ shipping on it, so it would presumably cost the same to ship back . I would be surprised if the yrefunded any of the shipping costs. So that means, in the best of circumstances, I'm going to be out 80$ with no monitor .

I've been spoiled by dellrefurbished.ca . Their stuff is accurately graded and I've had no bad surprises with the 4 laptops I've purchased from them so far . Oh, and they know how to pack .

I was actually expecting something similar from newegg.ca . Oh and I forgot to mention, there actually was bubble wrap in one corner of the box. They just never bothered to wrap the screen in it .

Send it postage due or COD. If they don’t file a charge back.

They will pay for return shipping . I said would prefer a replacement if possible. They will refund me if not possible . Considering the monitor was loose in box, face against cardboard, with loose cables inside and cardboard support structure had failed , it could be due to bad packing combined with rough handling .

This might be shipping damage, but I can't say for sure .

I also find it hard to believe that something as glaring would pass any quality control if it had been present before shipping .

Anyway, newegg.ca seems to be handling this in a fantastic manner so far .

Did you purchase it from a 3rd party seller on Newegg or from Newegg themselves?

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Reply 33851 of 40042, by darry

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-08, 23:45:
darry wrote on 2020-05-08, 14:33:
They will pay for return shipping . I said would prefer a replacement if possible. They will refund me if not possible . Conside […]
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austinham wrote on 2020-05-08, 04:44:

Send it postage due or COD. If they don’t file a charge back.

They will pay for return shipping . I said would prefer a replacement if possible. They will refund me if not possible . Considering the monitor was loose in box, face against cardboard, with loose cables inside and cardboard support structure had failed , it could be due to bad packing combined with rough handling .

This might be shipping damage, but I can't say for sure .

I also find it hard to believe that something as glaring would pass any quality control if it had been present before shipping .

Anyway, newegg.ca seems to be handling this in a fantastic manner so far .

Did you purchase it from a 3rd party seller on Newegg or from Newegg themselves?

Newegg themselves .

Reply 33852 of 40042, by EvieSigma

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I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the results were...not good. Blinking yellow power light of doom and the CPU fan running at full blast, despite me trying both the original RAM it came with and a set of my own.

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Sent a message to the seller but so far no response...I don't really want to ship this thing back because it's pretty heavy and I'd have to pay for it. Would rather get refunded half what I paid and use that to buy a replacement motherboard or something.

Reply 33853 of 40042, by cyclone3d

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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-09, 01:51:
I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the res […]
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I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the results were...not good. Blinking yellow power light of doom and the CPU fan running at full blast, despite me trying both the original RAM it came with and a set of my own.

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Sent a message to the seller but so far no response...I don't really want to ship this thing back because it's pretty heavy and I'd have to pay for it. Would rather get refunded half what I paid and use that to buy a replacement motherboard or something.

Couple of things to try first:
1. CMOS battery
2. Power Supply
3. CPU

My bet is that the motherboard is dead though. Was it sold as working? If so, and you want to ship it back for a refund, then eBay will provide a pre-paid shipping label which they charge the seller for.

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Reply 33854 of 40042, by EvieSigma

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-09, 02:49:
Couple of things to try first: 1. CMOS battery 2. Power Supply 3. CPU […]
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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-09, 01:51:
I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the res […]
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I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the results were...not good. Blinking yellow power light of doom and the CPU fan running at full blast, despite me trying both the original RAM it came with and a set of my own.

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Sent a message to the seller but so far no response...I don't really want to ship this thing back because it's pretty heavy and I'd have to pay for it. Would rather get refunded half what I paid and use that to buy a replacement motherboard or something.

Couple of things to try first:
1. CMOS battery
2. Power Supply
3. CPU

My bet is that the motherboard is dead though. Was it sold as working? If so, and you want to ship it back for a refund, then eBay will provide a pre-paid shipping label which they charge the seller for.

It was sold as working, yeah, hence the frustration when it arrived and very much was not. Motherboard clearly lived a hard life as both the green AGP retainer thing and part of the CMOS battery holder were extremely brittle and snapped off, a sure-fire sign of having spent years running in a real hot environment.

Reply 33855 of 40042, by Horun

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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-09, 03:22:
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-09, 02:49:
Couple of things to try first: 1. CMOS battery 2. Power Supply 3. CPU […]
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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-09, 01:51:
I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the res […]
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I got this Dell OptiPlex GX400 off eBay and it arrived on Wednesday, finally test the thing out yesterday (Thursday) and the results were...not good. Blinking yellow power light of doom and the CPU fan running at full blast, despite me trying both the original RAM it came with and a set of my own.

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Sent a message to the seller but so far no response...I don't really want to ship this thing back because it's pretty heavy and I'd have to pay for it. Would rather get refunded half what I paid and use that to buy a replacement motherboard or something.

Couple of things to try first:
1. CMOS battery
2. Power Supply
3. CPU

My bet is that the motherboard is dead though. Was it sold as working? If so, and you want to ship it back for a refund, then eBay will provide a pre-paid shipping label which they charge the seller for.

It was sold as working, yeah, hence the frustration when it arrived and very much was not. Motherboard clearly lived a hard life as both the green AGP retainer thing and part of the CMOS battery holder were extremely brittle and snapped off, a sure-fire sign of having spent years running in a real hot environment.

After replacing the battery You should remove the Heatsink-Fan from the cpu, clean them and re-apply good (non-silver based/non conductive) heatsink goop. Next remove the RDram and clean the edge contacts with Iso Alc on paper towel. If it was never re-greased since built you have an old machine that most likely has chalk instead of grease between the cpu and heatsink and could have mild film on the ram contacts. Plastics do wear out but that should not prevent the board from booting if cpu and ram are in good shape ! If still no boot check the PSU voltages.
I recently bought a similar P4 that had issues and nearly all (except bad HD) were fixed with re-spooging the cpu heatsink.

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Reply 33856 of 40042, by EvieSigma

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I did clean the RAM slots with my trusty QD Electronic Cleaner (available at your local Walmart!) but not the modules themselves. And I definitely should get a look at that CPU.

Reply 33857 of 40042, by wirerogue

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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-09, 01:51:

Sent a message to the seller but so far no response...I don't really want to ship this thing back because it's pretty heavy and I'd have to pay for it. Would rather get refunded half what I paid and use that to buy a replacement motherboard or something.

i would definitely wait and see if the seller responds before digging too deep and attempting repairs.
on more than one occasion, an ebay seller has refunded me without having to ship the item back.
if you attempt a repair and somehow make it worse, i've done that also, returning the item then becomes ethically questionable as some of it is now your fault. 8-(

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Reply 33859 of 40042, by kolderman

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yawetaG wrote on 2020-05-09, 08:48:

Kawai GMega MIDI module complete with box .

Plus a set of rare anime MIDI file CD-ROMs.

This is a really nice module with certain games. It doesn't fare so well with others, but when it does it sounds great.