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First post, by cdoublejj

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An Epson ActionNote 910C

http://files.support.epson.com/pdf/an910c/an910cpg.pdf

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any who my brother's dad sent it to us. it was his first windows computer. i'm wondering if i can install socket 3 to 7 adapter or a dx 4 and some ram. i wonder if there are any chips bigger than 16 mb or if it's possible to upgrade it past 24mb ram.

Reply 1 of 29, by Amigaz

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"socket 3 to 7 adapter"? I'm sorry but there are no such things
The fastest CPU (if it's works in this PC) is the AMD 5x86 or a Pentium Overdrive

My retro computer stuff: https://lychee.jjserver.net/#16136303902327

Reply 3 of 29, by cdoublejj

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well, i think it's socket 3 to 5. i saw some shove a funky looking chip with an even bigger pin array into a socket on here.

so here is what i've found so far

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-OverDrive-P … =item3a50c55ac8
only problem is it says: Do not tested so sold "AS IS"

http://cgi.ebay.com/PENTIUM-OVERDRIVE-MMX-BPO … =item35a4a6dc53
price problem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-OverDrive-M … =item3efb31876b
not bad

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-5x86-processor-AMD-X5 … =item27acc04e3e

http://cgi.ebay.com/486-DX4-75-SK047-100-WORK … =item359e7629af

what do you guys think?

next i need to learn more about it's ram. any maybe if i'm lucky it might have vram slots where i can upgrade the vram i doubt that but, i've seen old desktop cards that did that mainly not slots but, little ic sockets.

Reply 4 of 29, by Amigaz

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cdoublejj wrote:
well, i think it's socket 3 to 5. i saw some shove a funky looking chip with an even bigger pin array into a socket on here. […]
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well, i think it's socket 3 to 5. i saw some shove a funky looking chip with an even bigger pin array into a socket on here.

so here is what i've found so far

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-OverDrive-P … =item3a50c55ac8
only problem is it says: Do not tested so sold "AS IS"

http://cgi.ebay.com/PENTIUM-OVERDRIVE-MMX-BPO … =item35a4a6dc53
price problem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-OverDrive-M … =item3efb31876b
not bad

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-5x86-processor-AMD-X5 … =item27acc04e3e

http://cgi.ebay.com/486-DX4-75-SK047-100-WORK … =item359e7629af

what do you guys think?

next i need to learn more about it's ram. any maybe if i'm lucky it might have vram slots where i can upgrade the vram i doubt that but, i've seen old desktop cards that did that mainly not slots but, little ic sockets.

That's the pentium overdrive, no socket 3 to socket 5 adapter

You have some reading to do, my friend 😉
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_OverDrive

I'd try and find an evergreen am5x86 CPU upgrade since they are often fanless...with a plain 5x86 you need active cooling since a big heatsink might be hard to fit inside a laptop....and the pentium overdrive fan is loud as hell.

My retro computer stuff: https://lychee.jjserver.net/#16136303902327

Reply 5 of 29, by cdoublejj

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http://www.cpushack.net/UpgradeProcessors.html
this one has some info on upgrade chips

http://www.razornylon.com/modules/smartsectio … df.php?itemid=4
i wasn't aware there was a slot 2

thought i'd share

some chips i wish were 20 bucks or even available for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/GAINBERRY-CPU-Overdrive-M … =item3efb7ac7fa

Reply 6 of 29, by Amigaz

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What do plan to use this laptop for?

Remember that even the pentium overdrive or a fast 486 might be too slow for the 1995 or later games and too fast for some earlier games so an upgrade can even be a waste depending on what games you want to play.

Remember that the pentium overdrive is quite a weak CPU...about as fast as the 5x86 133mhz but has a faster FPU which is an advantage in a few games

My retro computer stuff: https://lychee.jjserver.net/#16136303902327

Reply 7 of 29, by swaaye

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You're lucky that it sounds like it has support for the later Socket 3 CPUs.

Pentium Overdrive is sort of a POS unless all you want to do is run games that are all about FPU, in which case you might want to question why you are bothering with this machine anyway. 😀

I think that the best option would be a Am5x86 133 @ 4x40 = 160. If it can run a Am5x86.

Reply 8 of 29, by Amigaz

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You're lucky that it sounds like it has support for the later Socket 3 CPUs.

Pentium Overdrive is sort of a POS unless all you want to do is run games that are all about FPU, in which case you might want to question why you are bothering with this machine anyway. 😀

I think that the best option would be a Am5x86 133 @ 4x40 = 160. If it can run a Am5x86.

That's why I recommend the evergreen am5x86, it has worked in motherboards I've tried where the plain amd 5x86 fails

My retro computer stuff: https://lychee.jjserver.net/#16136303902327

Reply 9 of 29, by Old Thrashbarg

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Are you even sure you can use a normal CPU in that thing? That doesn't look like a standard 486 socket to me, the pin configuration is quite different...

And also, the CPU board appears to contain cache chips. Even if you can replace it with a regular CPU, you'd lose the cache, and that would make the system into a total dog.

Reply 10 of 29, by swaaye

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Hey you're right.

The two missing pin holes are curious and will prevent inserting anything that I know of. Even if they weren't missing, a POD will not fit because you need 4 rows deep on all sides.

I'm also sure you would not be able to use a CPU with any attached cooler or interposer due to space concerns, although that concern is rather secondary at this point heh.

Oh well. Actually if the beast has a Cx5x86 already, upgrading isn't really going to get you much anyway.

Reply 11 of 29, by Old Thrashbarg

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The two missing pin holes are curious and will prevent inserting anything that I know of.

Well, no, you could physically insert a 486 in there... the socket is 18 wide and 17 tall, and a 486 is 17 x 17 (with 3 rows deep on all sides), so you could plug it in by leaving the rightmost row empty. Assuming I counted right, anyway. 😵

Whether or not it would work is another matter entirely, though, and if you don't know for sure, you could end up frying something. I strongly suspect it's a proprietary design that just happens to use a similar socket.

You're certainly right that a POD is not an option, though. I believe those take a 19 x 19 socket, in addition to having 4 rows deep on all sides.

Reply 12 of 29, by cdoublejj

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hhmmm interesting stuff if you enlarge the decal pic you can see a setting for the dx4. i can always click the fsb to 40 and see if that boost performance. also it has sentimental value to my brother and it's retro and would fine with older dos games.

Reply 14 of 29, by Kelly Stiver

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Hey, your laptop is interesting! It reminds me of the one I bought last month for retro games - an Asus Eee PC netbook (for running DOS, Win 3.xx, Win 95/98, and some Win XP games now that Win Vista/7 is currently out).

I didn't know Epson made laptops, either - thought they just made printers.

Here's a link to my thread that's about my retro laptop - today I've added photos! I got myself a "retro" mini laptop

Where did your brother's dad get that Epson laptop from? What games do you plan on playing on it? Do you plan on taking it out and about with you like when I take my Asus Eee PC netbook to the mall to play games? Can you watch/play DVD movies on yours? What OS's does it run?

Reply 15 of 29, by cdoublejj

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well the screen it's self lags i haven't messed with it for a while. i need to find ram for it i'm gonna need help with it. any old game that can run on decently would be nice.

Reply 16 of 29, by PowerPie5000

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cdoublejj wrote:

well the screen it's self lags i haven't messed with it for a while. i need to find ram for it i'm gonna need help with it. any old game that can run on decently would be nice.

The response time on those old screens is terrible and are not very good for gaming unless your playing Myst or maybe some old text adventures 😁

I remember when i got my first laptop... it was a brand new Compaq with a Pentium 166mhz CPU and 32mb of RAM (high spec laptop back then). I gave up on it because the slow screen response time gave all my games the worst motion blur! The original GTA was a real pain to play on that laptop 😒

Reply 17 of 29, by cdoublejj

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yeah, i'm sure i can figure some kind of use for it. the floppy drive doesn't work i don't know if it's age or dirt. i also haven't the slightest idea on how to go about finding ram.

Reply 18 of 29, by swaaye

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PowerPie5000 wrote:

The response time on those old screens is terrible and are not very good for gaming unless your playing Myst or maybe some old text adventures 😁

I post about this every time I see somebody say they want a "retro notebook for retro gaming". 😀 Not many people remember what those old screens were like or maybe have never used them.

I used to try to play MechWarrior 2 and Descent on a dual scan LCD. I'm fairly certain that nobody wants to relive that. Mouse trails without turning on mouse trails. Smudgevision.

Reply 19 of 29, by HunterZ

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Around 5-10 years ago my family got hold of an old (even at the time) laptop that had a ~200MHz AMD CPU and Windows 9x. I took it on a trip once and played Fallout on it, ran fine. It wasn't powerful enough to handle much else though (not to mention Fallout pretty much filled up the dinky HDD in the thing).