Well, one thing doesn't make sense.

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Coppermine T This revision is an intermediate step between Coppermine and Tualatin, with support for lower-voltage system logic […]
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Coppermine T

This revision is an intermediate step between Coppermine and Tualatin, with support for lower-voltage system logic present on the latter but core power within previously defined voltage specs of the former so it could work in older system boards.

Intel used the latest Coppermines with the cD0-Stepping and modified them so that they worked with low voltage system bus operation at 1.25 V AGTL as well as normal 1.5 V AGTL+ signal levels, and would auto detect differential or single-ended clocking. This modification made them compatible to the latest generation Socket-370 boards supporting FC-PGA2 packaged CPUs while maintaining compatibility with the older FC-PGA boards. The Coppermine T also had two way symmetrical multiprocessing capabilities, but only in FC-PGA2 boards.

The Coppermine T is the only Coppermine to feature an integrated heat spreader. They can be distinguished from Tualatin processors by their part numbers, which include the digits: 80533 e.g. the 1133 MHz SL5QK P/N is: RK80533PZ006256, while the 1000 MHz SL5QJ P/N is: RK80533PZ001256

The Coppermine-T was a slightly modified Coppermine which had some added features (like 1.25v AGTL) of which I haven't got a clue what practical consequences these changes have.

Note the part I made yellow:If CPU-World is correct, then obviously the wiki must be wrong.
There was recently a discussion on cpu-world about the true nature of Coppermine-T vs FC-PGA2.

I'll go look it up and report back...

Edit:Found it, link: http://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php? … der=asc&start=0
Apparently there were some odd-balls around 😐

Found some extra info which should shed some light on easilly ID-ing these chips.

Looking at the next 2 pages:
Coppermine: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYP … permine%29.html
Coppermine-T: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYP … Coppermine-T%29).html

You can correctly distinguish between the 2 by looking at their part numbers (you won't have to look up their sspec's).

Coppermines have the part numbers 80526
Coppermine-T's have the part number 80533

FC-PGA and FC-PGA2 chips can also be distinguished by looking at their part numbers, provided the chips are OEM parts, not boxed parts
Have a look at the part in yellow:
RB80526PZ001256
RK80526PZ001256
RB80533PZ933256
RK80533PZ001256

The first 2 are Coppermines while the last 2 are Coppermine-T's
When the yellow letter is a B, the package will be FC-PGA
When the yellow letter is a K, the package will be FC-PGA2

Hmmm...I should take a look at my chips in the attic...

But either way, I know of no care in real life where Coppermine or Coppermine-T actually make any difference.
Both work in Coppermine boards and will behave exactly the same
Both work in all Tualatin boards I've seen till this day (just check cpu-upgrade.com), and even if the Coppermine-T has a slight advantage over Coppermine in a Tualatin board, I'd rather put a real Tualatin in there anyway 😜

Well, hope this answers it for you! 😉

Well looks like ya killed it Tetrium. 🤣

I found the cpu for free, It seemed interesting. The last thing I'm wondering is if the Coppermine-T has the advanced prefetch like the Tualatins?! This could make it a nice drop in any S370 board without any pin mods.

A side note, also found a Number 9 S3 Vision968 and a Matrox G200A (no extra ram card though). 😀

Thanks for the beyond quick answers!

Tetrium wrote:

Found some extra info which should shed some light on easilly ID-ing these chips. […]
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Found some extra info which should shed some light on easilly ID-ing these chips.

Looking at the next 2 pages:
Coppermine: www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYPE ... mine).html
Coppermine-T: www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYPE ... ne-T).html

You can correctly distinguish between the 2 by looking at their part numbers (you won't have to look up their sspec's).

Coppermines have the part numbers 80526
Coppermine-T's have the part number 80533

FC-PGA and FC-PGA2 chips can also be distinguished by looking at their part numbers, provided the chips are OEM parts, not boxed parts
Have a look at the part in yellow:
RB80526PZ001256
RK80526PZ001256
RB80533PZ933256
RK80533PZ001256

The first 2 are Coppermines while the last 2 are Coppermine-T's
When the yellow letter is a B, the package will be FC-PGA
When the yellow letter is a K, the package will be FC-PGA2

Hmmm...I should take a look at my chips in the attic...

But either way, I know of no care in real life where Coppermine or Coppermine-T actually make any difference.
Both work in Coppermine boards and will behave exactly the same
Both work in all Tualatin boards I've seen till this day (just check cpu-upgrade.com), and even if the Coppermine-T has a slight advantage over Coppermine in a Tualatin board, I'd rather put a real Tualatin in there anyway 😜

Well, hope this answers it for you! 😉

Page not found for both your links.

sliderider wrote:

Page not found for both your links.

Gah, must be IE acting up again putting those %20's in the link

Edit: Opera did the same thing, couldn't fix it

As I can't fix the links, you'll just have to use this page instead, then open both the Coppermine and Coppermine-T pages:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/index.html

Tetrium wrote:

sliderider wrote:

Page not found for both your links.

Gah, must be IE acting up again putting those %20's in the link

Using IE5 on your Win98 machine? 😜

sliderider wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

sliderider wrote:

Page not found for both your links.

Gah, must be IE acting up again putting those %20's in the link

Using IE5 on your Win98 machine? 😜

Lol, might be one of those 2:20am things 😜

Anyway, I want to know how to get these links right before moving to bed 😜

Coppermine http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYP … permine%29.html
Coppermine-T http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/TYP … rmine-T%29.html

Working from FF4.0

I see your links don't copy over the 28 and 29 instead of the ( and )

Weird stuff right there, 🤣

Edit:Ah, it also encodes the ( and the ) and not just the spaces...interesting

RogueTrip2012 wrote:

I see your links don't copy over the 28 and 29 instead of the ( and )

Yup, noticed the same thing. Never knew this, only knew about the %20 thingy

Edit:Links are fixed! Thanks RogueTrip 😉

So it's a Coppermine with a nice heatspreader and support for Tualatin bus specs?

Is PIII Xeon socket 370? I wonder how that would go in gaming tests.

sliderider wrote:

Is PIII Xeon socket 370? I wonder how that would go in gaming tests.

P III Xeon is Slot 2 I think

swaaye wrote:

So it's a Coppermine with a nice heatspreader and support for Tualatin bus specs?

Yup, until very recently I thought FC-PGA2 == Coppermine-T, but apparently Intel had to do it in some special way again 😜

@ swaaye - it appears so

@ sliderider - All P2 and P3 Xeons are Slot 2. Later Xeon's use coppermine with more cache basically. IMO gaming test would be only slightly better due to extra cache and less branch misses. The Xeon like coppermine are still lacking in FPU which games need more of.

Zomg, my thingy under my name changed from Oldbie to l33t?
There must be this sleepystuff stuck in my eyes

Tetrium wrote:

Zomg, my thingy under my name changed from Oldbie to l33t?
There must be this sleepystuff stuck in my eyes

Congrats sandman.