Robin4 wrote:

Is it possible to connect a MT32 to the MIDI daugtherboard of the SB live card?

Err? DB60XG, as the example, have only the wavetable connector. You want to plug MT-32 to where? 😀
It is possible to plug in SB Live midi/joystick output (with the cable). But of cource without "Intelligent" mode. So, many games will sound wrong.

You could, perhaps, build a wavetable header -> MIDI adaptor cable.

I think it's easier to get a sound card with MIDI-out though.

SquallStrife wrote:

You could, perhaps, build a wavetable header -> MIDI adaptor cable.

I think it's easier to get a sound card with MIDI-out though.

This is what i have got from a stripped computer:

The bracket is also to connect a MIDI device on it..

Gamecollector wrote:

Robin4 wrote:

Is it possible to connect a MT32 to the MIDI daugtherboard of the SB live card?

Err? DB60XG. as the example, have only the wavetable connector. You want to plug MT-32 to where? 😀
It is possible to plug in SB Live midi/joystick output (with the cable). But of cource without "Intelligent" mode. So, many games will sound wrong.

DB60XG is ment as ISA card..

And connecting a MT32 or so to the MIDI inteface add-on card as you can see one post ierlier.. That bracket have MIDI in and MIDI out..

Obviously, the word "daughterboard" is misleading, and made the guys think of a wavetable card. I have the same soundblaster live, and I used to try to connect a midi keyboard on one of those ps/2-like sockets. I ended up using a cheaper midi to joystick port cable. But if you really want to make use of your "bracketboard", I believe you need this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-5-pin-Mini-t … =item1c22e23042

Just to clarify a few things:
The SB Live! daughterboard has mini-DIN plugs for MIDI IN and MIDI OUT, so you could connect an MT-32 (if you have the mini-DIN to DIN converter cables). The daughterboard is connected to the SB Live! by a flatcable.
The Yamaha DB60XG is a MIDI daughterboard to put on a WaveBlaster connector; the Yamaha SW60XG is an ISA card with an analog input (to enable use of the effects filters on any sound source).

Ok then its clear..

Should i have any benefit with that SW60XG card on a Pentium II
Or with an MT32 connected through the mini din connectors?

Are there games from that time range that could use one of these two methodes?

Updated the pictures in first post.

I have a Pentium II 300 that I would like to make into a Voodoo II sli machine. How much ram do I need and what OS should I use. It currently has windows ME on it. Would like to play Powerslide, Unreal, UT99, Quake II, Redline, Thief Gold and a few others circa 1997-1999.

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Have you tried flashing your board so you could upgrade later to a p3?

Iam not planned to install a PIII on it.. Yes i can do that.. But i want to make it as a pentium II system.. For faster games iam building a Athlon XP with win98.. So i can play all the faster games with it.

Tiremaster400 wrote:

I have a Pentium II 300 that I would like to make into a Voodoo II sli machine. How much ram do I need and what OS should I use. It currently has windows ME on it. Would like to play Powerslide, Unreal, UT99, Quake II, Redline, Thief Gold and a few others circa 1997-1999.

The best OS is windows 98SE for those games, I think. There's also a special patch kit which includes all official 98SE updates, as well as some user-made ones (this is important if you're going to run, say, a northwood with a newer BUS -- my Voodoo 4500 wasn't detected until I used that update pack).

You probably wouldn't need more than 128MB of RAM (in fact, 64MB would probably be sufficient). But being a P2, I'd max it out as much as you can within cacheable limits.
I have 768MB of RAM in my P2 system.

Nice build, though a 400mhz P2 seems a bit anemic for dual Voodoo2s.

m1919 wrote:

Nice build, though a 400mhz P2 seems a bit anemic for dual Voodoo2s.

agreed. They need at LEAST 600 to live up to their potential. Thats why my v2 setup will be using a 1g chip.

other than that it looks AWESOME. I love the sb live daughter card. I kinda want one for myself.

I think a PIII 500 is just as good if you have one. Going faster than that I doubt you'll see that much of a difference on the Voodoo 2s

I can't find the link at the moment, but I distinctly remember seeing benchmarks that show voodoo 2's can bog down cpu's up to about 600mhz.

It certainly depends on the game. For example, Quake 3 and UT99 definitely benefit from more CPU than a 600 MHz P3. It'll help when a lot is happening and the CPU gets loaded down with more animation and lighting.

Also you don't need to load the Voodoo2 SLI down with 1024x768. 640x480 or 800x600 obviously have more headroom for frame rate.

luckybob wrote:

I can't find the link at the moment, but I distinctly remember seeing benchmarks that show voodoo 2's can bog down cpu's up to about 600mhz.

Depends who did the benchmarks. Typically 3dfx cards were benchmarked in OpenGL or Direct3D instead of Glide... 🙄

With Glide, they stomped on pretty much anything nVidia or ATI could make (nVidia tried overclocking TNT chips to thermally terrifying levels in order to get something still below a Voodoo2). If Spectre had been commercially released, there would have been no competition.

Voodoo2 = P1
Voodoo2 SLI = P2

It's typically better to run later voodoos on later CPUs to get the best performance. Supposedly the chips can start to run super hot if mixed with later CPUs (I haven't tested that though). Why put a Voodoo2 in a later system when I have a 5500-PCI-with-DVI....