YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-3-31 @ 12:58

i have test my sblive in another pci port the result is the same. no go. is there a way to make it work? or a yamaha-aureal vortex 2 is needed??
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-4-03 @ 03:40

truemaster wrote:i have test my sblive in another pci port the result is the same. no go. is there a way to make it work?

No, you need an ICH5 southbridge or earlier. If you want to run the Live! under DOS on a PCIe based setup you need to go for VIA or SiS (also ULi/ALi with Athlon 64).
or a yamaha-aureal vortex 2 is needed??

That's correct for you current motherboard.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-4-03 @ 14:22

thanks i will try aureal once arrived
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-4-04 @ 14:54

Kamerat wrote:@sparky4

That chipset doesn't support DDMA, so there is no help in modifying SETUPDS.EXE.


what should i do then? reduce the ram and try a different slot? or is it no hope? original DOOM works perfectly with OPL3 and SOUND BLASTER support.
or should i try a different card?

cyclone3d wrote:Have you tried a different PCI slot?

What are the exact settings you are using in the setupds.exe configuration utility?

Post pics if possible.


not 100% sure but i can try by removing all my cards and just have the pcie slot in use by graphics card only. with the ymf724 in a pci slot next to it of course.

here is the ds.ini
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LEGEN=1
SBIO=0
SBIRQ=0
SBDMA=1
MPUIO=0
MPUIRQ=0
JOYIO=0
INTAIRQ=5
IRQMODE=1
DMAMODE=3
FIRSTTRY=0
SLAVEBASE=0
SLAVEADDR=0
LEGMAS=77
VOICE=77
FM=77
MASTER=0
MONO=8000
PCBEEP=8000
PHONE=8008
MIC=8008
LINE=8808
CD=8808
VIDEO=8808
AUX=8808
PCM=808
SBFILE=YMH8.WAV
NAFILE=YMH16.WAV
FMFILE=YMH.MID
PIRQRC=0
LOADTSR=1
IRQSHARE=0
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby Kamerat » 2018-4-04 @ 18:20

sparky4 wrote:what should i do then? reduce the ram and try a different slot? or is it no hope? original DOOM works perfectly with OPL3 and SOUND BLASTER support.
or should i try a different card?

I would try using 512/256MB of RAM and EMM386 instead. If you change PCI slot remember to change FIRSTTRY= to 1 for SETUPDS to automatically reconfigure and always use the LOADTSR batch file to initialize the card and load DSDMA (if DSDMA doesn't load automatically there's something wrong).

One thing I don't know if there's any differences in compatibility between the different 7x4 revisions when it comes to using the DSDMA TSR. Have you tried your card in any other computer?
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-4-04 @ 22:12

Kamerat wrote:
sparky4 wrote:what should i do then? reduce the ram and try a different slot? or is it no hope? original DOOM works perfectly with OPL3 and SOUND BLASTER support.
or should i try a different card?

I would try using 512/256MB of RAM and EMM386 instead. If you change PCI slot remember to change FIRSTTRY= to 1 for SETUPDS to automatically reconfigure and always use the LOADTSR batch file to initialize the card and load DSDMA (if DSDMA doesn't load automatically there's something wrong).

One thing I don't know if there's any differences in compatibility between the different 7x4 revisions when it comes to using the DSDMA TSR. Have you tried your card in any other computer?

ok i will try those things!

not yet! because finding a test computer and set up because of lack of time
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby truemaster » 2018-4-25 @ 16:55

aureal vortex 2 works ok and the good thing is it doesent need any ems. heres the comparison, in all windows game is superior to sb live. but back when i have the p3 mobo the live has better audio in dos but for pure dos the live need ems when the aureal does not.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-6-13 @ 18:40

truemaster wrote:aureal vortex 2 works ok and the good thing is it doesent need any ems. heres the comparison, in all windows game is superior to sb live. but back when i have the p3 mobo the live has better audio in dos but for pure dos the live need ems when the aureal does not.

hmmm what dose it look like? i may have one
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-6-14 @ 22:32

i tested the setup on a different motherboard... and it works.. i am going to check the hardware now
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby ruthan » 2018-7-10 @ 03:04

Hi,
i finally completed my first round of X58 + Yamaha 744 Pure DOS compatibility testing (97 games), now is time check results and for suggestions what to try to fix problems, any help is welcome.
It would be really nice if someone with Yamaha 72x / 74x would retest some of problematic games, if has same problems, if he/she would have older chipset that me, even better - it would be really nice to now if problem in soundcard and drivers in usage of too new chipsets.

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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby ruthan » 2018-7-16 @ 15:37

Ok have tested 130+ games, in find ~20 not working (described in Not working games for now section of first post) with Yamaha SB emulation, could someone pleas retest someone them too and tell if has same problems?
Pleas add info about used MB.
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-7-30 @ 01:53

good news i changed to a hp wx4600 motherboard and now all of a sudden everything with sound works perfectly lol <3
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby ruthan » 2018-7-30 @ 02:31

sparky4 wrote:good news i changed to a hp wx4600 motherboard and now all of a sudden everything with sound works perfectly lol <3

So Intel X38 Express chipset if im not wrong? BTW i read some old post you were using JEMM.. today news that you need NOVME parameter at least with some boards to make DSDMA working..
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby sparky4 » 2018-8-02 @ 17:23

ruthan wrote:
sparky4 wrote:good news i changed to a hp wx4600 motherboard and now all of a sudden everything with sound works perfectly lol <3

So Intel X38 Express chipset if im not wrong? BTW i read some old post you were using JEMM.. today news that you need NOVME parameter at least with some boards to make DSDMA working..


!!!! i think i should try that when i get home
but if i am not mistaken i think certain games need vme or so
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Re: YMF744+DSDMA+DOS+P965(and other PCIe chipsets)=success

Postby kalohimal » 2018-8-24 @ 17:01

Kamerat wrote:
cyclone3d wrote:What version of SETUPDS is being used? Is it a modified one?

No, it's an unmodified one from the driver package downloaded directly from Yamaha.


Hi Kamerat,

May I know if this setupds is version 3.16? I couldn't get it to work, dma will be disabled, unless it is modified and the south bridge vendor/device ids are inserted. I'm also very interested in how you've gotten nForce 4 boards to work, since the chipset is not supported in the original setupds.
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