Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby danoon » 2018-3-08 @ 15:47

I'm in the process of releasing a file system with Wine 3.1. It definitely broke a few programs. So far I verified that Age of Empires Demo also won't install under Wine 3 on a real Linux box. But it also fixes some programs. WinTrek no longer has drawing issues. I tried Wine 3.2/3.3, but my programs were 10x slower and I'm not sure why. I guess it will be like Play on Linux, I will have to support multiple Wine versions in order to support more games.

As for Windows 1 and 2 compatibility, that is unfortunate they dropped support in Wine 1.3. Currently with the way I do things, Wine 1.4 is the lowest version I can handle because that is when they implemented their DIB driver. My Winex11.drv replacement doesn't handle palettes, fonts, blending, etc, so Wine will fall back to the DIB driver to handle those cases. Basically Wine just hands me a bitmap and I display it.
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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby Jo22 » 2018-3-31 @ 21:46

danoon wrote:As for Windows 1 and 2 compatibility, that is unfortunate they dropped support in Wine 1.3. Currently with the way I do things, Wine 1.4 is the lowest version I can handle because that is when they implemented their DIB driver. My Winex11.drv replacement doesn't handle palettes, fonts, blending, etc, so Wine will fall back to the DIB driver to handle those cases. Basically Wine just hands me a bitmap and I display it.

Never mind, it's okay for me. While I really wished WINE would have had kept that,
I also see the improvements that took place with Windows 3.x support.
The games on your gallery look very well now. Some even better than they did on Win95.

And on the bright side, developers of games like Klotz were already prepared for
the upcoming Windows 3.0, so that they made sure they could run fine there.

For the older games, there's still hope that they can be patched enough to appear
as regular (more or less) Windows 3.0 applications (either by Borland's resource editor or Mark30),
but without breaking Windows 2.xx compatibility.

So nothing is really lost (though it would have been cool to be able
to run an unaltered file from ~1986).

Anyway, Boxedwine really improved and I hope it will continue to do so.
If you need any help, you can count on me. :)

Just write it down or sent me a PM,
and I will try my best to test a few games for you.


Best regards,
happy easter holidays,
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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby danoon » 2018-4-13 @ 22:47

Jo22, thanks for the help. I will definitely post here again when I get closer to another release. I have a major code refactoring going on right now that will hopefully make it easier to add new cpu cores. And with a bit of luck, maybe make the code easier to work with too. But its really too easy to let a code refactoring get out of control. Its already been several weeks since I have been able to compile :exclamation:
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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby Serious Callers Only » 2018-4-25 @ 10:56

wouldn't it be better to use github? Seriously, i think it's a major turn off for both the visibility of a new project and ease of contribution (not that i was planning anything).
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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby danoon » 2018-6-02 @ 01:35

SCO, I don't know about Github, but SourceForge has been pretty bad about down time this year and now it can take several minutes for simple commits. I wonder what is up with them, its like they don't even want to host projects anymore.
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Re: Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)

Postby The_L1985 » 2018-6-11 @ 15:11

Jo22 wrote:
I think wine breaking programs (ie: regressions) are unusual

Not really related, but years ago the Linux kernal (v.3.14) had broken 16-bit PM support (got fixed by Linus ?),
As far as WINE compatibility is concerened.. well..

Windows 1.x and 2.x NE executables are nolonger recognized properly since quite a while,
as I mentioned briefly in an older thread years ago.

I know, sounds like nitpicking, haha. :sweatdrop:

In reality, there aren't that many fans of KLOTZ,
Tetris for Windows, Modem Chess, Taipei or Starbase anymore I suppose. ;)


Considering I only know of Taipei because my husband figured out how to "break" it as a kid, probably. :)

As someone completely new to DOS (I was into my teens when it was discontinued, but Dad hadn't let us actually use DOS prompts ourselves beyond "run [CD-ROM game]" I have zero idea how to get my Win3.1 copy to install on DOSBox...Boxedwine would not only make that easier, but allow me to easily play old Win9x games as well (I still have some of those).
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