Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

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Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-05 @ 09:41

Is there any difference in image quality between the various manufactures of the original Voodoo 1? Obviously the comparison would be done on the same system with the same pass-thru cable. Has anyone looked into this? I recall reading in the forums that the Voodoo doesn't have the clearest display, but is manufacturer better than the other? Is one worse than the other?
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby The Serpent Rider » 2018-6-05 @ 10:53

Didn't noticed much difference, all look somewhat blurry. Maybe in some special cases like Canopus or Quantum3D cards, but I have only their V2 variations to judge.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby leileilol » 2018-6-05 @ 21:29

They've all got the same 4x1 filter. It's always going to be blurry. It's not the passthrough cable.

You can turn this filter off by setting SST_VIDEO_FILTER_DISABLE to 1.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby swaaye » 2018-6-12 @ 18:15

It's crazy sounding, but I used to like to run my Matrox Mystique's 3D acceleration instead of the Voodoo sometimes because of how sharp and crispy it was by comparison. I specifically remember doing that with Jedi Knight.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-12 @ 18:29

Did you try leileilol's comment to set SST_VIDEO_FILTER_DISABLE to 1 and compare with the Matrox Mystique?
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby swaaye » 2018-6-12 @ 19:58

I don't know if I've tried that. It's a good idea, especially if using an LCD that's already causing some blur.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-12 @ 20:08

Its on my list now, but not sure if I'll get to it before I die.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby Unknown_K » 2018-6-12 @ 20:15

The Orchid Righteous 3d has the best quality because it uses mechanical relays for video switching while all the others use solid state relays that will slightly degrade video quality. Other then quality of the pass through cable the other models should be about the same.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby F2bnp » 2018-6-12 @ 21:25

swaaye wrote:It's crazy sounding, but I used to like to run my Matrox Mystique's 3D acceleration instead of the Voodoo sometimes because of how sharp and crispy it was by comparison. I specifically remember doing that with Jedi Knight.


Some games do look better without any filtering, especially compared to the simple bilinear filtering of the time.
To this day, I enjoy playing Quake 1 more with filtering disabled, despite using modern source-ports.

feipoa wrote:Did you try leileilol's comment to set SST_VIDEO_FILTER_DISABLE to 1 and compare with the Matrox Mystique?

There was a thread here a few years ago with direct captures from elianda, showcasing the filters on and off (there's also the 24bpp one). Don't have a link handy, but it should be pretty easy to find.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-12 @ 23:42

I saw elianda's thread on this, however, I noticed very little between the screenshots. Perhaps its my monitor.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby mcobit » 2018-6-14 @ 23:27

I have an "unbranded" VooDoo 1 card that produces horrible interference even with good passthrough cables on LCD monitors. It's a bit better on CRTs. Mostly two parallel lines of fuzziness in the screen center. If I touch the VGA port those change but never go away completely.
A Diamond Monster VooDoo 1 in the same system doesn't have those problems.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-14 @ 23:35

Interesting. Is this issue related to capacitors or the different RAMDAC used?
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby mcobit » 2018-6-15 @ 04:16

I have yet to find out.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby feipoa » 2018-6-15 @ 04:19

Could you share a photo of the card?
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby mcobit » 2018-6-15 @ 09:00

Sure. Not at rhe moment unfortunately.
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Re: Differences in Voodoo 1 image quality between manufacturers

Postby anthony » 2018-6-15 @ 17:05

Q3d cards are the worst
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