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Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby PcBytes » 2018-6-10 @ 10:44

Sooo....

Today I've been given some free boards. One is a LuckyStar 6VA694+ VER:2.0 and the other is a ASUS K8V-X SE w/ Sempron 3000+.

This thread focuses on the former.

So, upon a good inspection, the boards was in a pretty sorry state.

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I think it's pretty obvious. Crap caps galore. Not to mention, there was a popped (bulged) MOSFET near the CPU socket. Also, sweet Jesus that entire section above the CPU. Made my skin crawl.

So, I proceeded to replace the caps. Went through my stash and found 14 OST caps, 2006 datecode, just great. Got away with leaving two of the bigger caps (although they weren't made for the respective silkscreen, which was waay smaller than that) and replaced the MOSFET with a 30V part (it was originally a 60V, dunno why waste a 60V part in a spot where 30V is enough)

Finally, replaced the battery holder as well since it was corroded.

This is a shot before I powered it on. I used a beefy Deer PSU I recapped and modified myself with good parts for testing, and a Forza FX5200 128MB/128bit.

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....and it's alive! Of course, CMOS checksum error. Was expecting that.

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I'm open for suggestions as to what GPU to use - I have a ATI Rage IIC, a GF2MX400 and a MX440 and a Xpert2000. Same for HDD - 10, 20 or 40GB? You decide.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby candle_86 » 2018-6-11 @ 05:29

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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby ATauenis » 2018-6-11 @ 09:28

It is a later Pentium-3 motherboard with AGP4x and three 512 MB memory module support (in total 1.5 GB). It should be equipped with an top video card. Even GeForce FX will be adequate here. GeForce 4 MX440 also will be a good choice here. HDD also should be big, as the games and software that can run on this hardware were some huge. 40 GB will be a good size. 20 GB might be small if you are planning to work on the PC, not simply play games. Also, if you are planning to use 2 OS (e.g. WinXP and Win98 or Win+*nix) 40 GB is a minimum for comfort work, and a 80 GB HDD will be a better choice.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby PcBytes » 2018-6-11 @ 18:46

ATauenis wrote:It is a later Pentium-3 motherboard with AGP4x and three 512 MB memory module support (in total 1.5 GB). It should be equipped with an top video card. Even GeForce FX will be adequate here. GeForce 4 MX440 also will be a good choice here. HDD also should be big, as the games and software that can run on this hardware were some huge. 40 GB will be a good size. 20 GB might be small if you are planning to work on the PC, not simply play games. Also, if you are planning to use 2 OS (e.g. WinXP and Win98 or Win+*nix) 40 GB is a minimum for comfort work, and a 80 GB HDD will be a better choice.

Well, guess 40 GB will suffice.

Thinking of a 2k/98 dualboot. Went with the MX440 (AGP8x variant tho, w/ nice gold PCB and fan) and a 40GB WD400BB and 256MB RAM.

Any other suggestions? Didn't want to go with a FX5200 (I have one, 128MB/128bit) because that one gets fiery hot.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby ATauenis » 2018-6-12 @ 08:05

PcBytes wrote:Any other suggestions?

384 MB will be better for Win2k. 256 may be entirely consumed in Win2k at time of internet browsing of extracting some large archives. But for old games, MS Office, and some simple apps 256 should be enough. Win98 software uses <256MB too.

PcBytes wrote: Didn't want to go with a FX5200 (I have one, 128MB/128bit) because that one gets fiery hot.

FX are really hot. But with a fan and a good thermal interface (last is very important!) they are heating up to 40 C, not more. I have got in my collection one FX5200, and it was very, very hot. After removal of the heatsink I had found that...there was almost no thermal grease. The manufacturer slightly spat, and it was the all thermal interface. I had added some thermal grease, and the FX became more cool, and now it can work even without fan.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby appiah4 » 2018-6-12 @ 11:09

GeForce 2 GTS/Pro/Ti/Ultra is the obvious choice here.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby chinny22 » 2018-6-12 @ 12:53

If your duel booting and just got HDD's doing nothing, Install Win98 and games on the 40GB and 2k on the 10Gb (Win2k only takes about 4GB)
Same with an isa soundcard, if you got Win98 installed then may as well get some dos compatibility. I'd want something nicer for Windows games though
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby PcBytes » 2018-6-13 @ 18:13

Just built it.

Went with a slightly modified version of chinny22's suggestion - added TWO 40GB drives instead of one, and a 10GB Seagate drive left from a upgraded Xbox. Also replaced the MX440 with the 5200 I mentioned, and added a fan.

Now I only have to unlock the 10GB drive ( which is easier than you'd ever think) and then install 98SE. 2000 is already installed on the WDC (I forgot to mention - the drives are a Maxtor, a WD and the Seagate, all in this order) and it's just a matter of installing the drivers.
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Re: Pentium 3 restoration.

Postby chinny22 » 2018-6-14 @ 11:35

I like to max out my HDD's as well, too much storage is never enough :)
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