FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

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FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby leileilol » 2018-6-12 @ 19:38

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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby squiggly » 2018-6-12 @ 19:44

Fuck Valve.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby DosFreak » 2018-6-12 @ 20:40

I'm sure a wrapper will come out to support it like kernelex does for Steam on Windows 2000.
https://msfn.org/board/topic/176757-ext ... xtendedxp/

Really though Steam isn't needed. Just crack the game, emulate Steam or if the game doesn't require Steam then your're good.

If you use Steam for multiplayer then do so with a supported version of Windows.

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I'm going to enjoy marking all the Steam games on my compatibility list for XP as troublesome. Should bring 2000 (vanilla) and XP even closer to the same compatibility level. :)

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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby F2bnp » 2018-6-12 @ 21:25

Yeah, this sucks.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby vvbee » 2018-6-12 @ 21:37

Only interested if this affects wine.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby BeginnerGuy » 2018-6-12 @ 21:40

I really hate to see XP support go. They really need to leave a legacy version of steam that at least allows you to install and launch games, just disable the store and chat / friends features.

I do the vast bulk of my steam gaming on my Dell running XP :(.. No more surfin' CS:S

I guess it's time to re-buy hard copies of all my favorite XP era games
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby robertmo » 2018-6-13 @ 04:49

BeginnerGuy wrote:I guess it's time to re-buy hard copies of all my favorite XP era games

What about GOG?
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby 0kool » 2018-6-13 @ 06:06

robertmo wrote:
BeginnerGuy wrote:I guess it's time to re-buy hard copies of all my favorite XP era games

What about GOG?

There are very few XP era titles on GOG compared to Steam. Also GOG tend to comply with "the current year" trend to some extent as well, so you can't be sure they won't re-wrap the installers to be Win7+ exclusive one of these days.

The only games I would buy from GOG (except a few new ones) are those that came on disks, but still required steam (or origin) activation. Other than that, you are probably better off with original CDs/DVDs. If you want the "true taste", that is. Somehow for the most part GOG repacks doesn't appear to me much more than regular pirate rips.

squiggly wrote:Fuck Valve.

Preach.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby squiggly » 2018-6-13 @ 06:42

Ok im gonna install steam on a XP box, install my favorite games, switch steam to offline mode and then image that sucker.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby chinny22 » 2018-6-13 @ 09:20

Shame but inevitable in this online world.
Only way to guarantee running things on older OS's is still have the CD/DVD or offline installers like GOG
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby appiah4 » 2018-6-13 @ 11:27

This is why you should support GOG.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby snorg » 2018-6-13 @ 16:35

squiggly wrote:Ok im gonna install steam on a XP box, install my favorite games, switch steam to offline mode and then image that sucker.



Ugh. I'm probably going to have to do that for my Vista box, too. And an XP image so I can have a virtual XP disk on my Linux boxes. I kinda wish GOG had Pinball Arcade, I damn near broke the bank trying to buy up all the legacy tables that they are going to be pulling soon due to IP/licensing issues. I will have to make sure I install it along with all the DLC on both those images. Such a PITA.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby DosFreak » 2018-6-13 @ 19:01

Hmmm just thought of something.

The steam fanboys always mention that Valve will push out a magical patch to make their (ie Valve) games offline when Valve disappears. Since they are dropping XP and Vista support (just like when 9x and 2000 support was dropped), this is their chance to prove it since it's so simple. Since they won't then that's proof that they never will. Awesome.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby Fire Vine » 2018-6-13 @ 23:38

what about fallout 3
that game ONLY works with xp or vista
whats the point of even getting that game on steam then
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby BeginnerGuy » 2018-6-13 @ 23:44

appiah4 wrote:This is why you should support GOG.


Agreed but unfortunately I was already invested into steam before GOG was really known, common scenario.

I also enjoy playing Counterstrike games and I still spend a lot of time on Source on my XP machine with a 4:3 screen.

I'm trying to consider how to create a bit of noise to at least take a chance of asking them to leave us a legacy steam version for limited use on XP. I know it'll be ignored though.

Fire Vine wrote:what about fallout 3
that game ONLY works with xp or vista
whats the point of even getting that game on steam then


Fallout 3 works fine on my Win10 machine, but maybe I just have a lucky configuration. Not to argue your point though, I have many games on steam that wont work on windows 10 for me, and games that absolutely HATE running on my new graphics card, that run better on my older machines. We have a dismal state of support for 2000-2009 games on modern hardware yet they want to cut off older operating systems... sigh.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby ODwilly » 2018-6-14 @ 01:24

Fire Vine wrote:what about fallout 3
that game ONLY works with xp or vista
whats the point of even getting that game on steam then

There is patch that fixes that to work with 7. Ironically it always had terrible crashes and bugs under 7, but when I installed it under 10 recently in compatibility mode it ended up working great.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby BeginnerGuy » 2018-6-14 @ 01:47

Still, I'm pretty bummed about this. I think as long as my XP machine survives I can just keep launching the old steam client in offline mode. But I think you have to get online at least once before you can do offline mode, so we wouldn't be able to access our steam libraries moving beyond 2019 with fresh installs.

That's what I get for being too unwilling to learn new things and placing my bets on GOG :\
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby silikone » 2018-6-14 @ 14:12

Amassing physical copies of games was definitely not a mistake.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby Malik » 2018-6-14 @ 14:22

Time to use the cracked EXE for each game, not unlike those "NO CD" fix/exe?
Bypass Steam altogether.
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Re: FYI: Steam drops XP/Vista in 2019

Postby oeuvre » 2018-6-14 @ 15:50

Malik wrote:Time to use the cracked EXE for each game, not unlike those "NO CD" fix/exe?
Bypass Steam altogether.


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