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First post, by gryffinwings

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Hi guys, I picked up a Pentium 2 computer, a Gateway G6-400. I picked it up with a lot of 8 computers and servers for a combined price of $40 for all the computers, so essentially a $5 computer. Looks to have a Pentium II 400 MHz CPU, can't really tell what motherboard it has, but it has an ISA slot, came with some weird but probably just office computer cards which I removed and put into antistatic bags, not sure what I want to do with those cards. The problem I have is that the computers power supply looks ragged, some rust on the surface and the old case doesn't use the standard power supply size that I am familiar with. Could someone recommend an appropriate power supply? case recommendations would be great, I'm assuming this is an ATX motherboard, here's some pictures of the computer.

The lot of computers I got, 3 are Core 2 Duos, the racks are Intel Xeon LGA 1366 HP DL 360 G6 and G7
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Gateway G6-400
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Main Computer: Custom - Intel 12900K, Asus Nvidia 3080 Ti, 64 GB DDR5.
Retro Computer: Packard Bell Legend I - AMD 286, 640KB RAM
Retro Computer: Shuttle XPC - Pentium 4 2.8 GHz FSB 400 MHz, ATi Radeon 9600 Pro, Sound Blaster Live!, 2GB RAM.

Reply 1 of 6, by yawetaG

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The cards look like:
- a network card
- a modem card with integrated speaker (the L-shaped one)
- an ATI 3D AGP graphics card with a memory extension bay (with extension module)

Nothing special or weird really. Probably they are OEM versions.

As for the power supply, it mostly looks rather dirty with caked on dust. A good clean could do wonders, especially because Gateway Power supplies tend to be good quality and last for a long time.

The motherboards are regular ATX. However, in these cases the power supplies incorporate a fan to cool the CPU and tend to be a custom form factor, so replacing it by a new power supply will require finding a cooling solution for the CPU and possibly cutting up the case.

Reply 2 of 6, by gryffinwings

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yawetaG wrote:
The cards look like: - a network card - a modem card with integrated speaker (the L-shaped one) - an ATI 3D AGP graphics card wi […]
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The cards look like:
- a network card
- a modem card with integrated speaker (the L-shaped one)
- an ATI 3D AGP graphics card with a memory extension bay (with extension module)

Nothing special or weird really. Probably they are OEM versions.

As for the power supply, it mostly looks rather dirty with caked on dust. A good clean could do wonders, especially because Gateway Power supplies tend to be good quality and last for a long time.

The motherboards are regular ATX. However, in these cases the power supplies incorporate a fan to cool the CPU and tend to be a custom form factor, so replacing it by a new power supply will require finding a cooling solution for the CPU and possibly cutting up the case.

The part that concerns me about the power supply is that when I removed the dust there was some surface rust. I could probably clean the power supply box and repaint it, which I am not opposed to doing, I'd love to get this computer running again, I really doubt there is anything really wrong with this computer. As for cooling, I was thinking on the lines of a case with multiple 120mm fans, especially with fans on the top side part of the case. I can't imagine that this processor needs much directed air flow, as long as it has plenty of fresh cool air coming into the case.

Main Computer: Custom - Intel 12900K, Asus Nvidia 3080 Ti, 64 GB DDR5.
Retro Computer: Packard Bell Legend I - AMD 286, 640KB RAM
Retro Computer: Shuttle XPC - Pentium 4 2.8 GHz FSB 400 MHz, ATi Radeon 9600 Pro, Sound Blaster Live!, 2GB RAM.

Reply 3 of 6, by ODwilly

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Well it is a standard ATX motherboard. If you transplant it into literally any standard ATX case then using a good quality power supply becomes much easier, as well as cooling.

If you want to keep the case but replace the psu then I think Sparkle or Athena Tech, as well as other companies make "matx" and other small size power supplies in the 300watt range,. Which will be overkill for any typical Slot 1 build.

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Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 4 of 6, by gryffinwings

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ODwilly wrote:

Well it is a standard ATX motherboard. If you transplant it into literally any standard ATX case then using a good quality power supply becomes much easier, as well as cooling.

If you want to keep the case but replace the psu then I think Sparkle or Athena Tech, as well as other companies make "matx" and other small size power supplies in the 300watt range,. Which will be overkill for any typical Slot 1 build.

Well, I got the computer to post, so the power supply seems to be ok, I just need to open it up and get some canned air in there. Other than that, I'm thinking about spray painting the old case to freshen it up, The case is a bit scratched up. I was thinking the exterior panels should be white and the inside and interior and chassis should be black.

thoughts?

Main Computer: Custom - Intel 12900K, Asus Nvidia 3080 Ti, 64 GB DDR5.
Retro Computer: Packard Bell Legend I - AMD 286, 640KB RAM
Retro Computer: Shuttle XPC - Pentium 4 2.8 GHz FSB 400 MHz, ATi Radeon 9600 Pro, Sound Blaster Live!, 2GB RAM.

Reply 5 of 6, by Katmai500

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Those gateway 200W power supplies are pretty common and cheap on eBay. I have a few of these era Gateway towers and the 440BX boards have a 3-pin fan header. So you could swap in a standard 20-pin ATX power supply and just replace the CPU heatsink with one with an attached fan and connect it right to the motherboard. I'm pretty sure the mounting holes on the back of the case are standard ATX. The pinout is standard unlike Dell units of the era.

Reply 6 of 6, by gryffinwings

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Katmai500 wrote:

Those gateway 200W power supplies are pretty common and cheap on eBay. I have a few of these era Gateway towers and the 440BX boards have a 3-pin fan header. So you could swap in a standard 20-pin ATX power supply and just replace the CPU heatsink with one with an attached fan and connect it right to the motherboard. I'm pretty sure the mounting holes on the back of the case are standard ATX. The pinout is standard unlike Dell units of the era.

Not sure I am really concerned about heat, the Arctic F8 80mm fan I installed is moving plenty of air. So I think the supplemental air flow should be enough.

Main Computer: Custom - Intel 12900K, Asus Nvidia 3080 Ti, 64 GB DDR5.
Retro Computer: Packard Bell Legend I - AMD 286, 640KB RAM
Retro Computer: Shuttle XPC - Pentium 4 2.8 GHz FSB 400 MHz, ATi Radeon 9600 Pro, Sound Blaster Live!, 2GB RAM.