I have a multi booting k6 3+ system that has a pci usb 3.0 card in it. The drivers say it's a "Renesas usb 3.0" but sold as "Startech 4 Port PCI USB 3.0 Card" it works fine in windows 7 but I was wondering if I could get it working on ME as well?
has anyone gotten something like this to work in 98/me if even only at usb2.0 speeds
short answer is no long answer is maybe in usb 2.0 mode, but probably not on that controller thats if NUSB drivers work. Big If there. Whats the point. A k6 is barely fast enough to even work with usb 1.1 Find a NEC based usb 2.0 controller with internal headers and be happy.
You'd honestly be lucky to get USB3 working on XP, by 2011 when USB3 was finalized no one was writting Windows 98 drivers, you could make them yourself if you knew how to write drivers but outside of that or paying someone to write a custom driver (I'm going to assume sevral thousand dollars) the anwser is no
I second that. I had had got an early USB 3.0 PCIe card with a NEC chip.
The drivers made by NEC (later, Renesas) worked fine on XP SP2.
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I use my USB3 (Fresco) card in XP+. On the same box I just use the USB2 ports on the motherboard for <XP. Of course with this motherboard I have the luxury of tons of USB.
USB3 on PCI would be extremely bottlenecked doubt there would be a point to it. On those old machines firewire is best if comparing USB2 vs firewire then firewire is less cpu and faster.
No idea how esata would perform on an old machine if there is a PCI card for it.
DosFreak wrote on 2021-02-13, 14:26:I use my USB3 (Fresco) card in XP+. On the same box I just use the USB2 ports on the motherboard for <XP. Of course with this motherboard I have the luxury of tons of USB.
USB3 on PCI would be extremely bottlenecked doubt there would be a point to it. On those old machines firewire is best if comparing USB2 vs firewire then firewire is less cpu and faster.
No idea how esata would perform on an old machine if there is a PCI card for it.
Usb 3 at 100mb/sec is a lot faster than usb2 at 12 mb/sec which are about the speeds I’m getting
I have nothing that uses firewire. And if I got something that did use it I could use it in none of my other computers
I think I will leave the usb3 in there for win7 and just use the 1.1 ports in ME. Thanks guys.
Hey Sphere478,
Could you take the card out, take a picture of the backside, and post it here.
It seems like there's a chip on the backside, probably the PCI-PCIe bridge chip and I'm wondering which brand/model/id it is.
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-13, 19:02:Hey Sphere478,
Could you take the card out, take a picture of the backside, and post it here.
It seems like there's a chip on the backside, probably the PCI-PCIe bridge chip and I'm wondering which brand/model/id it is.
red one
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-14, 14:55:red one
cheers, that matches exactly with the chip on a photo I found online of that same card. 😀
Sphere478, Could you test them, to see if they're working, in a Asus P5A or similar SS7 mainboard with ALI chipset ?
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-14, 16:30:Sphere478, Could you test them, to see if they're working, in a Asus P5A or similar SS7 mainboard with ALI chipset ?
It probably would. Only board that has given me trouble was a lga 1155 msi board it seems to work well in most boards
I only have 430yx/hx socket 7 boards
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-14, 17:30:It probably would. Only board that has given me trouble was a lga 1155 msi board it seems to work well in most boards
I only have 430yx/hx socket 7 boards
I tested one pci-pcie bridge on an p5a and it didn't get detected. Haven't tested it yet on any 430?x boards yet.
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-14, 17:43:Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-14, 17:30:It probably would. Only board that has given me trouble was a lga 1155 msi board it seems to work well in most boards
I only have 430yx/hx socket 7 boards
I tested one pci-pcie bridge on an p5a and it didn't get detected. Haven't tested it yet on any 430?x boards yet.
To my knowledge +3.3V isn't present on the P5A PCI slots. Could it be the bridge needs that and you have to hack your board to supply the voltage?
Doornkaat wrote on 2021-02-15, 13:17:To my knowledge +3.3V isn't present on the P5A PCI slots. Could it be the bridge needs that and you have to hack your board to supply the voltage?
Could it be that simple ? I'll test it when I get the chance. Thanks !
edit: I'm gonna say you're right without testing it. I've looked at the bridge and ... All the 5V lines are connected to each other and a few caps, though nothing visible goes to any chip that might be a regulator.
So I took out the multimeter and measured around and... aside from the 5V lines in the back being connected together, and the 5V lines on the front being connected together with some caps. They aren't connected to anything else. So yep, this board needs a 3V3 line on the pci bus to function.
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-14, 17:43:Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-14, 17:30:It probably would. Only board that has given me trouble was a lga 1155 msi board it seems to work well in most boards
I only have 430yx/hx socket 7 boards
I tested one pci-pcie bridge on an p5a and it didn't get detected. Haven't tested it yet on any 430?x boards yet.
did you have a card installed in it? i put a m.2 in one of those bridges and it seemed alright if you had a OS that supported m.2
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-16, 01:08:did you have a card installed in it? i put a m.2 in one of those bridges and it seemed alright if you had a OS that supported m.2
Yes, I had a card in it, and tried several slots, and the card worked on a PIII board so I know it works, and I tested it in an older mainboard recently and that also works.
I haven't had the chance to check the P5A 3V3 line on the pci bus yet, but if that isn't present like doornkaat said, then the card I have won't work since it wouldn't be powered.
Confirmed, Asus P5A has no 3v3 on the PCI slots.
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-18, 18:19:Confirmed, Asus P5A has no 3v3 on the PCI slots.
you could try and find one of those 3v converter cards or make one
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-18, 22:49:weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-18, 18:19:Confirmed, Asus P5A has no 3v3 on the PCI slots.
you could try and find one of those 3v converter cards or make one
Ain't noone got time for that 😁
I'll just think about adding a 3V3 regulator on the card.
weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-18, 23:35:Sphere478 wrote on 2021-02-18, 22:49:weedeewee wrote on 2021-02-18, 18:19:Confirmed, Asus P5A has no 3v3 on the PCI slots.
you could try and find one of those 3v converter cards or make one
Ain't noone got time for that 😁
I'll just think about adding a 3V3 regulator on the card.
would back feed to the other cards also so size it big
