The later Versions are not optimized for glide anymore. I use an older one because of the better glide-optimization and the better color-sheme.

dr.zeissler wrote on 2021-07-27, 06:10:

The later Versions are not optimized for glide anymore.

Is there any concrete evidence for this? Back in the day, UT '99 always ran better and looked nicer on a Voodoo3 (Glide) than on a TNT2 (Direct3D). This is also reflected in contemporary benchmarks.

I think it's more likely that the UT engine (which Unreal Gold is based on) is more demanding than the original Unreal engine due to the plethora of new features that ware added.

Is the V-Sync behavior identical in both cases?

Check this thread for more info on how this could be the reason for this difference: How I Got Over 100 FPS on Unreal Gold

I suspect config differences. Notice your gold result is 30/60

There isn't any rendering changes between Unreal Gold and Unreal. There's some front end additions to keep it in parity with UT (which brings ease to switching to the other renderers), but other than that, nothing.

(Unreal itself however has had many, many rendering changes throughout the history of patches, including GlideDrv. I believe it was around 226 that they synced the renderers with UT 420)

Revolter wrote on 2021-07-27, 16:59:

Is the V-Sync behavior identical in both cases?

Check this thread for more info on how this could be the reason for this difference: How I Got Over 100 FPS on Unreal Gold

Pretty sure it isn't V-sync but I will double check.

I run the first Unreal Version with DX5 and I think it does not support multitexturing. I love the original one.

I will have to run some follow up tests to confirm a few things, I haven't had much of a chance as I'm waiting on a VGA to HDMI adapter so that I can move this PC to my main desk and connect via KVM.
Should make it easier to test so I'm not back and forth all the time.

I really thought there were some engine changes between Unreal and UT, but I might be wrong. It could very well just be a config change or even a Direct X version, as the system was identical in both tests but the Windows install was not.
Originally I ran Unreal Gold tests and ended up swapping the hard drive and re-installing Windows for some reason that I can't remember, and I installed Unreal fresh from a CD. So the Direct X version is likely 6.1.

Pretty sure that Unreal Gold installs with 7, but I might be wrong about that.

You know, before my family moved to a smaller house and got rid of a lot of things I wish they didn't get rid. (and also wished we didn't move to this house in the first place)

I did have Unreal, straight off the CD, running completely unpatched on a old Windows 98 with SLI'd Voodoo 2 cards. Which is funny because most people I see try to get the retail unpatched game to work just run into mysterious crashes, even LGR couldn't run Unreal 1 without patching it up to atleast 224 or something.

It ran pretty well except for the bugs in everything that had nothing to do with graphics.

I tried OG unpatched Unreal on my WIn95 Pentium MMX machine and while it worked, there was an issue where the music would only play out of one of the speakers when you got to the part where you first go outside.

Years ago, Epic said that they want to open-source Unreal Engine 1.0 and Unreal, but it requires a lot of time on their part to organize and clean-up the code, which is why they haven't done it. The successor releases can't be open-sourced because they use middleware that is commercial and requires licensing agreements.

DracoNihil wrote on Yesterday, 21:30:

I did have Unreal, straight off the CD, running completely unpatched on a old Windows 98 with SLI'd Voodoo 2 cards. Which is funny because most people I see try to get the retail unpatched game to work just run into mysterious crashes, even LGR couldn't run Unreal 1 without patching it up to atleast 224 or something.

There's some strange non-Pentium issues in the earliest versions affecting mainly earlier Cyrix6x86s/AMD K5s/486s, and Voodoo3 didn't work until v222 (the V3 pack-in version)

In 3dfx-mode, even on a voodoo1, the game (also very old versions) runs into issues if you use later (multitexture) drivers and later dx-versions. (2.43 is fine though, don't know if 2.46/2.48 is stoll ok, probably not.)