Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-27, 01:42

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I have also experimented a bit with msbatch and Windows ME. The last version was on the 98FE disk, but it works for ME. I'm not sure I should include this in the guide, but it's certainly a nice optional feature and it works pretty well. After a while I found it easiest to simply boot for a floppy …

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Re: Windows Me - "Misunderstood Edition"

Posted on 2016-05-27, 01:37

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ME has some nice features that are missing in 98SE. Off the top of my head: - File Types are far easier to work with. Meaning you can change which programs open which file types much more easily. - Plug & Play seems to work better than 98SE + nUSB, for example, I have an external MIDI module ( …

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Re: Windows Me - "Misunderstood Edition"

Posted on 2016-05-27, 01:34

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MS has been trying forever to make PC-computing less "nerdy" and more for, say, the n00b masses and ME was just one of the steps they took to go that way. ME took the 2k "modern" interface, not the other way around. Btw, that shutdown thingy, that was more a 98SE thing "it is ok to shut down bla bla …

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Re: 440BX 133Mhz FSB 89Mhz AGP Video Card Compatibility?

Posted on 2016-05-27, 01:17

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Tertz wrote: GF3, GF4 - worked I switched off sideband by RivaTurner How about the MX's?

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Re: 440BX 133Mhz FSB 89Mhz AGP Video Card Compatibility?

Posted on 2016-05-26, 18:48

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I'm kinda interested in learning which graphics cards (or at least which graphics card families) will probably work fine at 89MHz AGP. Only thing I can kinda remember is that newer cards had an overall better chance of having no problems with the overclocked AGP port.

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Re: What is with the prices on retro cards lately? (not a sale/appreasal post)

Posted on 2016-05-26, 11:21

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How do hipsters fit into this? Trust me... I have heard about those 18 to 20 year old persons, wich buy's up Voodoo cards, only to have then in a glass-display. They only do it, because they have heard that Voodoo's have this position in retro circles (Vogons as an example). 6 months earlier, it …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 09:37

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Now that I think about this VMM32.VXD issue and how it is related to drivers at install, would it be possible to get ME running stably on motherboards that are deemed to bluescreen in ME by, prior to running ME setup, disabling as much of the non-intel options in the BIOS as possible? Might be an …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 09:24

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This could be the key and worth proving/testing: Many of the stability problems who users faced comes by ACPI itself. Long story says that both Win98 and WinME come with a version of the WDM OSPM driver, ACPI.sys, which was backported from NT to Win9x OS family. Win98 comes with a driver taken from …

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Re: Very old IDE drives... compatibility problems?

Posted on 2016-05-26, 02:25

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Ozzuneoj wrote: Anyone know if older IDE drives have compatibility issues with newer controllers? My first thought is that this could have something to do with it. Have you tried any of these drives in an older system? Preferably with 9x or perhaps NT/2k?

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Re: What is with the prices on retro cards lately? (not a sale/appreasal post)

Posted on 2016-05-26, 01:44

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Theres also the Military who stockpile parts for there systems due to the length of time there in service (the Navy still has a few DOS applications in service...) and when those are no longer needed due to the systems they were for being phased out those parts end up in military surplus stores. On …

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Re: What is with the prices on retro cards lately? (not a sale/appreasal post)

Posted on 2016-05-26, 01:42

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Goldscrapper's have taken a big bite of that pie, no doubt about that. Resulting in prices going up, wich again makes it non interesting for them. They are only in the game, for profit, nothing more. That have been said a lot of times here. Then we have those who are sucking the market dry, and …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 00:58

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I think I got to get myself a Windows ME disc :) I got both OEM and retail versions (the retail one being in a large box filled mostly with air :D). And it's relatively easy to create an image of a non-bootable ME install disk and make it bootable. I even created bootable Windows ME msbatched …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 00:53

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Does anyone here realize Windows ME Retail will not boot on its own? You have to run it from the desktop of your pre-existing Windows install. Go OEM all the time. The retail package came with a boot floppy I think? Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense selling a separate (non-upgrade) OS without …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 00:52

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Since you seem to know an awful lot more about Windows ME than.................. Anyone I've ever met........ I'll pose a quick questions for you on the maximum side. You listed 1GB ram... will ME Actually run with 1GB ram? Does it cause any stability or other issues? (Win98se for example gets ' …

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Re: Tetrium's guide to Windows ME

Posted on 2016-05-26, 00:32

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I see I'm starting to get more attention here :D Anyway, added some information about hardware specs concerning the usability of Windows ME. Don't get me wrong.. I like ME and I would really like to use it. I just can't seem to get it to actually function as an OS and do what it's designed to do. …

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2016-05-26, 00:03

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What began as a single thought over the transfer of data from a single ZIP disk to my harddrive has escalated into a guide which will probably cost my life a million years. I've all but exhausted the resources of my poor shoulders and wrists in my struggle to get my Windows ME guide out the door, …

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Re: Tweaking a fresh Windows ME install

Posted on 2016-05-25, 23:56

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Major update and first real revision of the guide (see first post). Also decided to give this thread another name, as the old one was kinda not fitting enough anymore.

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Re: Benchmarking!!!

Posted on 2016-05-25, 20:25

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I know Phil created one for DOS, but I'm not aware of any lists for Windows here on Vogons? But this could actually be a nice idea if it hasn't been done here before.

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Re: Mainboard, or CPU, which's dead....?!

Posted on 2016-05-25, 20:21

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and finally I've put (at first try on this board), the socket 370 heatsink onto the CPU, only on top with it's weight, not fixed with the 3-point-clips at each side. Also i didn't use thermal paste for this test. Only for 2-3 seconds, i've seen a post screen or something, the heatsinks becomes …

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Re: Windows Me - "Misunderstood Edition"

Posted on 2016-05-25, 20:09

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Ultimately, as long as you aren't using failing hardware, or flaky drivers , or flaky software any version of Windows should do what it was intended to do just fine. Except that any version of Windows does actually do things it's not supposed to do, or may even be considered a bug or a nuisance …

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