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Re: Rendition Verité Speedy3D/RRedline info and pics

Posted on 2012-07-28, 19:34

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

V1000's triangle setup engine was special at the time because Voodoo1 only partially has it. Voodoo2 remedied this. Almost all GPUs from then onward have it. Voodoo1 was just less ideal for a very slow CPU, but Voodoo1 is far superior to V1000 in almost all other cases. 486 motherboards usually …

Re: Rendition Verité Speedy3D/RRedline info and pics

Posted on 2012-07-28, 17:19

in Marvin \ Video

in Marvin \ Video

I've been thinking about Rendition hardware lately. That's a great beginning :) Makes a casual reader to be sorry of being so ignorant about the matter... Got some questions though. sorry if this sounds stupid... :) Might this Rendition V1000 'offloading of triangle setup step' be of help with the …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-27, 22:56

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

It is important to check which mode PCPbench is run in to properly compare the scores. The results will be very different depending on the mode. to be perfectly exact (if such thing exists at all :)) let me quote RG100 "Also, PcpBench mode 100, in NOT LFB mode = 11.8! Edit: PcpBench (mode 100, not …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-27, 22:08

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Thank you for posting that. It seems the SiS pcpbench scores are about 1.5 points better than the UMC scores. Less PCI wait states? yes. Something good is obviously present here. (like " a small aura of good" in AD&D games). But what is the nature of this advantage, now, might not be perfectly …

Re: UMC chipset PCI 486 mobo. AMD P90 CPU options?

Posted on 2012-07-27, 02:40

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I understand from reading old posts on Vogons that a good VLB board is better than most (if not all) PCI boards, in terms of video performance. I am beginning to doubt this notion, having seen my PCI Biostar score 12.5 on Pcpbench (default mode) with a Virge 325, and also having got this system …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-27, 02:03

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

What PCPBench score do you get with the AMD X5 at 133 MHz with BIOS-optimised cache/memory? It's time to fix this pending question now :) Also some experimental data on other video cards beside Millenium II & Riva 128 is added. With all optimized settings for bios, cache and memory the result for …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-26, 01:41

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

What PCPBench score do you get with the AMD X5 at 133 MHz with BIOS-optimised cache/memory? Sure I will perform this test and also will have to add a couple of the ubiquitous Virge DX cards to the results. Not too much is to be expected here probably (besides the compatibility) but one of these has …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-24, 03:18

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Can you let me know what PCPbench score you get at 133 MHz? I beleive rg100 was not using this setting when he got that score: VESA Modus 100 (640x480 8bpp LFB). He ended up with a score of 9.0 with an X5-200 using a Matrox Millennium G200. I have not bothered to investigate if it is the graphic …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-23, 02:41

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Thanks! :) As a nice piece of late night thoughts, I've already read some threads on these CPUs and systems... and something looks quite weird about PCPbench. and its scores on different systems. This one, http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=27085&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40 > I've got it …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-22, 17:37

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Great thanks for the push to improve memory here... Now the memory subsystem has stopped this vampire-related type of activity. Quite to the contrary, it seems to perform well :) the settings screen currently looks like http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/7087/dsc02240if.jpg and the result is http:// …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-20, 22:14

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

the sis496/496 requires the turbo switch to be short for full memory/cache speed. it looks that I was reminded of this feature the hard way :) Pentiums make one forget about this switch and SiS is not forgiving, at all. What's nice is the fact it works, quite efficient in slowdown and nothing is …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-20, 21:15

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Heh, wow, that'll do it. Had you forgotten to connect a turbo button/switch, or just to activate it? Connecting the switch in place as it is on the picture was pretty enough to get it. Appreciated the pin indicator printed on the switch, the 1st pin marking on the board and even an inscription …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-20, 00:56

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Thanks a lot minna-san, everyone! That was it, I completely forgot about the Turbo Switch. Indeed that was the reason for slow operation. reminds of a possibility such as "There once was a little hedgehog, one day he forgot how to breathe, and he died..." Fortunately now that you mention it, the …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-20, 00:32

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

I would check the turbo switch first, but maybe you have a fake 5x86-133. Maybe it's really a DX/4 100. You should investigate to see if you are indeed running with a 2x multiplier. Sure, I started to have such thoughts when the 2nd board displayed the same "curse". Like the ADW cpu is defective, …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-19, 01:44

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

The numbers above are specific for SIS 496/497 boards. UMC/ALI may be faster if configured right, but not by much. About the poor performance of your SIS boards - could you post a Speedsys screenshot? Sure ^ ^ just in checking this an interesting fact came up, this LS board seems to like at least …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-18, 21:58

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

5u3 wrote: For the AMD X5-133 + SIS 496/497 + decent VGA ... might I ask if that's only for SiS 496? Is UMC going to be faster for any practical purpose? 😕

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-18, 21:13

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

> 133/33 MHz: about 8 FPS thanks! well... a score of 6 was easily attained on UMC at 120mhz. So I have to think the other 3 setups are just not using AMD X5-133 properly (though having the proper CPU model shown at boot up.) What might be the possible reason for mistake, here? 3 boards can't be …

Re: AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-18, 20:47

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Indeed that's a strange issue to be understood somehow, probably later when the performance riddle is solved. The only board I've tried to the moment that has showed any affinity to EDO was EXP8449 by DataExpert. But this one was not actually tried on with AMD-133, yet. It had a DX2-66 Intel CPU.. …

AMD x5 133 - the Mystery of Abysmal Performance

Posted on 2012-07-18, 17:39

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

Recently I stopped fiddling with the easy and straightforward Pentiums and ventured to explore more of the world of 486 quirks and horrors. It lives up to the reputation! ^_^ Amazingly, the matter of performance was of grave surprise here. 1. The best I managed to get from A-Trend ATC-1415 UMC PCI …

Re: Identifying a rebranded Aztech

Posted on 2012-04-11, 23:27

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

in Marvin \ General Old Hardware

sure thing, it was a good idea, many Aztech cards that I've seen photos of had the parts number exactly here, close to the ISA connectors. This one was different though :) Wonder why they were concealing Singapore *_* Old marketing mysteries. Well I might! Will have to verify how is its sound …

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