Re: #1 Attempt Mini-ITX Retro (WinXP 2001-2005)

Posted on 2020-05-01, 22:23

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by flupke11

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Great boards, these kontrons. I came across a nephew of your board, the 986LCD-M/mITX. 986LCD-M.JPG It has an ULV 1.06/1M/533 cpu which turns out (according to Speedsys, at least) to be rougly equivalent to a Tualatin 1,4/512/133 with a score of 1558. Unfortunately, I can't upgrade my CPU. I'm also …

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Re: Hardware reliability

Posted on 2020-05-01, 21:32

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by flupke11

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Apart from capacitors, I can't really say that motherboards just die from old age (not taking the ESD beast into consideration here). Plenty of XT's and AT's are still happily churning in basements, attics and other computer enthusiasts' dwellings. I suppose that those poorly made who were thrown …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-05-01, 20:46

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by flupke11

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Testing the VIA chipsets today. What a difference a board makes! The DFI performed so poorly, I had it replaced by the Aopen AX34 Pro II. I'll adapt the OP. I suppose there is a reason why they released new revisions of the CA64-TC. I have also one of the newer revisions, but that one suffers from …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-05-01, 12:26

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by flupke11

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Good work! Sounds like an interesting project :) I am excited to see the results on i840 and Serverworks Serverset III HE-SL chipsets especially since I did not have the chance to include those chipsets in my tests. Is your Quadro 900 XGL clocked 300 MHz (GPU) 325 MHz (RAM)? If yes, then you should …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-05-01, 12:19

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by flupke11

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I would suggest driver version 30.82 or 29.42 for the Quadro 4 900. They should be faster (same as with GeForce 4 Ti 4xxx). The mileage varies. I've tested three driver versions on the ECS, since that one is still on the bench: P6S5AT RAM Type Mhz 3D2K 3D01 Scpu Sfpu Q3a WHQL P6S5AT 1*512 DDR 1400 …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2020-05-01, 10:27

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by flupke11

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Chaintech 6VJD, my first VIA DDR PIII mainboard. I think I have now the whole collection of PIII chipsets. This boy will be added to the Tualatin chipset competition Pt II . An QU37ES Xeon PIII 700/1M on 2,8V. 4 Golden Orb knockoffs (one pictured), but they look too similar to have been made outside …

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Re: Working on a water cooled Athlon system.

Posted on 2020-04-30, 13:03

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by flupke11

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The case will be properly converted to ATX and not destroy or wrecked. I find those commits somewhat insulting considering my sheet metal work skill level. Once done most no one would be able to tell it was ever an AT case. I don't think any insult was meant here. It's just that such huge AT towers …

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Re: Tualatin/Tualeron CPUs and Slotket/Slockets

Posted on 2020-04-30, 12:26

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by flupke11

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The Lin-lin adapter and the Slot-T will allow the system to boot by switching the pinout back to something the mainboard understands. However, the mainboard must be capable of delivering the correct voltage (max 1,475V). If it is unable to do so, it might not boot, or feed the CPU Coppermine …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2020-04-30, 08:48

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by flupke11

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Real life is hampering my Tualatin tests, but luckily bidding and buying does not eat away a lot of time. After finding my first AMD Slot A, I got another one! For 30 euro I got the following: MSI 6191, with the proper, yet not-so-stable Irongate chipset, a Slot A Athlon 800, a nice Taisol Socket A …

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Re: DOS Benchmarks (Judging relative CPU performance, particularly with cache disabled)

Posted on 2020-04-27, 14:16

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by flupke11

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A wild stab, but what about computing Pi and comparing the results?

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-27, 10:20

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by flupke11

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One last request: could you see if the board boots without the 6-pin? I actually have a 200W Compaq 24p PSU from 1999. If it might boot with just the 24p I can use that to test it. If it's alive I'll shell out on one of those 375W and 1.5x ATX height monsters ;) Only tested Post, as I still have to …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-26, 16:19

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by flupke11

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bloodem wrote on 2020-04-26, 16:16: I would suggest driver version 30.82 or 29.42 for the Quadro 4 900. They should be faster (same as with GeForce 4 Ti 4xxx). I'll give it a go on the TUSL2-C.

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-26, 16:17

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by flupke11

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More results before I venture outside: Results are in for the ECS P6S5AT [Windows 2K, Nvidia drivers 45.23, SIS 121 AGP driver] on DDR. Chuffed it passed the test of installing Win2K and running all tests without lockups. That means my crude recapping was successful. Tualatest_SIS.JPG At FSB 133 , …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-26, 16:06

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by flupke11

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Slight side-question: I might just be receiving that Compaq i840 board in the near future (or otherwise some other Compaq i840 model). It seems to have an ATX-like-but-bigger connector. What PSU are you using? An original Compaq PSU or a generic ATX? I got lucky, I got an original AP550, so it's …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-26, 13:47

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by flupke11

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Quick test with the same install on the Asus P3B-F FSB 150; same ram as TUSL2-C, Upgradeware Slot-T, Promise on PCI 4 3Dmark2K: 11552 3Dmark01: 10397 Q3Ademo four.DM68: 185,5 Sisoft99: CPU 447 MB/s - FPU 484MB/s Impressive results for the oldie of the bunch... Filename Tualatest_i440BX.JPG File …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-26, 12:59

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by flupke11

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Thx! I've updated and rerun the tests: At 150 FSB, CAS3 consuming 108W, with modded BIOS 1011 and Nvidia 45.23: 3Dmark2K: 10847 3Dmark01: 9803 Q3Ademo four.DM68: 174,8 Sisoft99: CPU 377 MB/s - FPU 370MB/s A nice boost. I'll start testing a second system soon.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2020-04-26, 11:16

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by flupke11

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In order to add another chipset to the list and finally have a complete test of Tualatin-capable chipsets in Win2K, I just put in an order for a NOS Chaintech 6VJD, based on the ViaPro266DDR :d. It will not beat the BX, probably. But no scientific study is complete if all possibilities are not …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-25, 23:21

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by flupke11

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Results are in for the TUSL2-C [Windows 2K and on Nvidia drivers 45.23] I don't know why CPU-Z reports that the AGP is at 2X, while 4X is selected in BIOS and the Quadro is clearly an AGP 4X generation. At FSB 133 , CAS2 consuming 108W (MB, GPU, SATA) 3Dmark2K: 10087 3Dmark01: 9242 Q3Ademo four. …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-25, 21:45

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by flupke11

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candle_86 wrote on 2020-04-25, 21:27: The 440bx boards won't run an agp 8x card they are 3.3v electrically which Radeon 9600 and 9800 don't support as well as all ati Xxxx cards I'd agree on the BX, but the i815ep, being far more modern, suprised me in not running the 9700/9800. It runs the X850 …

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Re: Tualatin chipset competition pt. II

Posted on 2020-04-25, 18:33

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by flupke11

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Cheers for the information. I tested both a 9700pro and the 9800 AIW (which is a Pro, not an XT as I erroneously thought) on the i815ep platform, and both result in a failed boot. The ATI 9XXX are disqualified as such. I’ll stick with the Quadro 900, which was released according to Wiki in Feb 2002, …

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