Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-15, 07:14

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by aries-mu

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The only complete P60 system is a Proliant 1000 with the Prosignia 486 style case, not the one shown above. In the beginning Proliant was only the disk storage while Prosignia was the name of the Servers. The CPU of this system still has the FDIV-bug Other Compaq S4 boards are a disfunctional …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-14, 15:08

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by aries-mu

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Yep! Indeed, it's not a rational thing. It's an emotional attachment. Strange. I’d understand if someone would say that for example 486SLC is not true 486, but Am5x86 is just a marketing name, but here the architecture is identical to 486DX. It is so fully a regular 486 that it actually can’t be …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-14, 13:48

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Wow guys! Too bad AMD didn't keep the "486...something" name on the chips. For a 486 purist like me, the latest and fastest 486 remains the AMD 486 DX4-120. On the faster ones, it says 5x86, therefore, it doesn't feel like a 486. That's about as rational as saying the V30 is not an 8086 CPU.. Yep! …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-13, 08:54

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by aries-mu

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Wow guys! Too bad AMD didn't keep the "486...something" name on the chips. For a 486 purist like me, the latest and fastest 486 remains the AMD 486 DX4-120. On the faster ones, it says 5x86, therefore, it doesn't feel like a 486.

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 20:17

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OC 4x40 on a PCI motherboard. It was very common to do that on 486dx4/133's on PCI motherboards. But but but... DX4 133 didn't exist! The maximum Intel DX4s reached was 100 (actually a 3x33 CPU). AMD used to make the 486 DX3 120 (3x 40) So, that's not just OC the bus, it's also bump up the CPU …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 19:55

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by aries-mu

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Can you please post more photos of this case? I THINK the full tower version of this was my 486 case and I've been looking for something similar for years, any leads on the make model would be great! Hi man, here's more pics: https://i.imgur.com/oJZvvcc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jYpKccc.jpg https:// …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 19:53

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Quake had something to do with younger people dumping 486's for Pentiums. Another Issue was Windows 95 where people needed more RAM than what you could stuff in most older 30 pin SIMM based 486 systems. The 90's were a time period where computers were going obsolete very quickly (dumping ISA for …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 11:14

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CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2023-09-12, 09:14: Ha ha, you’re welcome! If this brightens someone’s day, it was definitely worth posting 😄 Yes indeed!!! Surely somebody will adopt it

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 11:13

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by aries-mu

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Can you please post more photos of this case? I THINK the full tower version of this was my 486 case and I've been looking for something similar for years, any leads on the make model would be great! Sure. I will when I'm home. If by tomorrow evening I didn't, will you please remind my, by also …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 09:04

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There has been incidentally quite neat ProSignia EISA/PCI server for sale locally in my country. P90, SCSI DVD, DAT and HDD, although apparently HDD is on its last legs. It has been for sale like months, it started with 100€ and is now 90€: Here is the link, so you can at least drool over the pics …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 08:06

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Apart from some Compaq Proliant P60 systems I just own a single ECS Elitegroup S4 Board. I dont remeber the exact type, but it can easily be recognized by the white ISA slots. :O "some" Compaq Proliant P60 systems???? :O :O I've been drooling over the idea of an old Proliant for a decade... and …

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Re: Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-12, 08:04

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by aries-mu

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Pentium 60/66 works only in 5V boards and there is no room for upgrade, why would anyone sold those separately? its combo like 386 boards. Bad IDE controllers (afaik corrupted with two devices on same channel, otherwise good), bad early PCI bridges (irqs set with jumpers, not every slot capable of …

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Okay! Pentium 60 it is: and tips on motherboards or adapting a socket5/socket 7 one?

Posted on 2023-09-11, 20:21

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Alright. I got this nice, retro (at the time) typical Italian case (DEX) and I'm positive on what kind of components I would 'feel' more apt in it. Pentium 60 MHz it is! (Which, btw, also gives me memories, as my 3rd PC was a Pentium 60). I must admit, I am surprised at the serious lack of …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-07, 10:12

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I'm not good with electronics, so I don't mind buying replicas or even new products that didn't exist back in the day. I prefer CRTs to LCDs for DOS gaming, so I have picked up a couple of old monitors. I'm the complete opposite when it comes to storage. I'll take flash storage any day over an old …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 22:03

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I'd probably buy both old and new. I'm a completionist. I want everything. Even though I have no room for what I already have. LOL !!!! I hear you brother! I want everything. Even though I have no room for what I already have. We feel you. Welcome to Hardwareoholics Anonymous :) Ahahahaha! Hey I'm …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 21:34

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For me the charm of "retro" stuff is not the fact/feeling that its old. If it looks the same, and works the same i am happy to waste my hours with "new old" parts instead of "old old" parts. Of course its nice to repair and refurbish old broken parts or hunt for drivers, but its also nice to unbox …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 20:53

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Some things age really bad, like plastics. I would prefer a non yellowed, non brittal replica device from the same quality over an old one any time. Good points! So, beside satisfying you for its superior quality, would the fact that a new product does not truly come from decades ago dissatisfy you …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 20:39

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Problem is... I think this 'price' aspect needs much more focus and clarity before the answers of the questionnaire make any sense. Good points. I might have explained what you're pointing in my previous comment, the one above yours. The focus here is to leave everything identical, except the age …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 18:21

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The survey seems to miss the obvious. Why would anyone buy a repro for THE SAME PRICE as you can buy an original? If the repros were significantly cheaper then I’d get it, but the pieces of hardware I’d want to buy repros of are bits you can’t find unless spending thousands or tens of thousands of …

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Re: The million dollar question on retrocomputing

Posted on 2023-09-06, 15:45

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Wait what? What's this? Is this what I think it is???? :O Please!!!!! All looks very, very early stage, but my fingers are crossed: https://github.com/skiselev/sandy_river_486 Oh my goodness!!!! All the very best to our friend Sergey!!!! Wait a second... ATX? Would an ATX mobo fit in an old AT case …

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