Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-02, 10:45

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by appiah4

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Sorry if someone mentioned this before, but have you tried pressing Ctrl-F1 (or Alt-F1... or Shift-F1) on the main screen of the BIOS? AMI BIOS put hidden menus in there at some point, but I don't know when they started doing that. Wondering if this would give you better access to advanced settings …

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Ext. cache enable jumper question: What happens if you open it while system is on?

Posted on 2017-11-02, 10:43

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by appiah4

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I'm considering using the turbo button to short the External Cache Enable jumper on a motherboard. Is this safe? What happens if I or someone accidentally presses the Turbo button while the system is on and opens the jumper? Or vice versa? Is the jumper setting registered only at boot (or maybe even …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-02, 10:30

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by appiah4

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OK.... I know it's not an answer you are looking for but this motherboard does not really worth the effort to use it - even if it was not a clone/cheap one (it certainly is a budget mobo don't know if it really is a clone) the fact that it has no L2 cache at all is a red flag... is there something …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-02, 10:13

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by appiah4

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does this motherboard have any cache on it? I can't see any is it embedded in the chipset or something? No external cache just 8K internal cache on the CPU: http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_11505/med_gallery_60983_11505_199949.jpg No idea why it has an external cache …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-02, 09:06

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by appiah4

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I'm gonna say that for that motherboard (and a majority of 486s..but my majority take is an assumption) you can't use EDO RAM. So that pretty much knocks out those top three modules that you mentioned. It is generally a good idea to just stick with FPM for 486s because I believe boards that support …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-02, 05:48

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by appiah4

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Hey thanks for sticking with me and trying to help me out here. Aside from trying a seperate IO controller (which I don't have) I have pretty much tried everything you named, and I sue can't try the card without an IO controller as I need at least a floppy controller for that. I will try a larger …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-11-01, 19:27

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by appiah4

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Final update. No, this does not have a happy ending. I tried to launch Doom tonight with a different stick of RAM, and got a strange EMM386 error: EMM386 has detected error #12 in an application at memory address 1901:1FAB. To minimize the chance of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer. For …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2017-11-01, 12:14

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by appiah4

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Scraphoarder wrote: I dont know yet. Probably never will have any use for all, but i like to have spares if some dies. Got the Compaq cards on an offer i made. That's ok, I'd love to pick up one of these if you ever do decide to sell them, give me a heads up if you do 😀

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2017-11-01, 10:47

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jheronimus wrote: probnot wrote: That and the display that showed 166 even though we had a 200Mhz MMX (since the first digit was only a 1). I think most people would just set the display to 199 in this scenario 😀 I would actually use C8 (hex for 200)

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2017-10-31, 20:33

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by appiah4

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Scraphoarder wrote: Got a some sound cards. 5 Compaq branded ES 1869F with onboard wavetable and a new Aopen card with Yamaha chip. Soundcards-lot.jpg Oh nice.. You plan to keep all of these, or possibly resell a couple?

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-10-31, 20:32

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by appiah4

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At this point I just want to resolve the issue and move on, even if it is 'this board is junk, throw it away and wash your hands clean' but my OCD mind can't let go until I know what the hell is wrong. It's not that I can't get a better (say a VLB) 486 but I just found this little motherboard …

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Re: Bought these games today

Posted on 2017-10-31, 15:32

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Hold up, nobody is frowning. I *wish* I could be content with just CDs, it makes no logical sense for me to hunt down boxed games as I have absolutely no display space whatsoever.. I'm really glad he got the games, there are some really cool games in there that I wish I had. It's a mighty good haul …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-10-31, 12:22

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I think I may be onto something. This SB PnP Manual on Creative's site has an interesting point in Troubleshooting (Page C-4): http://files2.europe.creative.com/manualdn/Manuals/TSD/781/english.pdf Problem System hangs or reboots during the 16-bit digital sound test, but it works fine during the 8- …

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Re: AWE64 Value: Worth upgrading to Gold?

Posted on 2017-10-31, 10:19

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by appiah4

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Yeah it's a significant upgrade. The 4MB onboard RAM can hold some significant SF2 soundfonts including the 4MB Creative one, the SCCT and the Yamaha XG ones. And that can make a huge difference. That said, given what a Gold usually costs you may want to grab one of the SIMMCONN adapters currently …

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-10-31, 09:49

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by appiah4

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Thanks ckRtech I will post more screenshots and videos of the issue tonight along with videos of available bios optipna..

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Re: Bought these games today

Posted on 2017-10-31, 06:49

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by appiah4

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Some great games in there, but I generally dislike jewel case only games unless it was an original budget release or something - there's something that really bugs my OCD self about a game that lacks its proper box..

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-10-31, 06:43

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by appiah4

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Dumb idea: not quite production-ready prototype board or sales sample meant for display only? Did the board have any traces of previous usage? Yes, it obviously came from some terminal or oem machine, it was certainly used. I'm assuming at this point that it's not a 'complete' MB457, but actually a …

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2017-10-31, 04:56

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by appiah4

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I think you have to manually update windows updater to the final version.

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Re: SB16 (formerly ES688) crashes 486 system, need help solving it.

Posted on 2017-10-31, 04:48

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by appiah4

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That mb457 board is using an Award BIOS, and you have an American Megatrends. Amoretro even mentions a lot of fancy settings in their BIOS for the mb457. The manufacturer ID string has been cleared out of your BIOS (set to 0000). Part of me speculates that this motherboard is a clone of a clone, …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2017-10-30, 21:19

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by appiah4

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dexvx wrote: @appiah4 What form factor is that chassis? Look small and inverted (5.25 bays on bottom). Inverted baby at. Very strange case indeed.

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