Re: Socket 3 vs Socket 4 build

Posted on 2020-01-22, 22:09

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by dionb

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Nope, that makes the difference between not booting at all and booting but hanging somewhere after POST at 160MHz, but doesn't make it stable. Looks like I've just been unlucky in the lottery. It's also not bus speed related as 3x50MHz is solid. Just get another one. Late date -ADZ or -BGC. Many of …

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Re: Socket 3 vs Socket 4 build

Posted on 2020-01-22, 20:31

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by dionb

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I have four, all do 150MHz (3x50) without complaint but either don't boot at all or aren't stable at 160MHz (4x40). With 4V? Nope, that makes the difference between not booting at all and booting but hanging somewhere after POST at 160MHz, but doesn't make it stable. Looks like I've just been …

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Re: Old Compaq

Posted on 2020-01-22, 19:29

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Great documentation on the case - had forgotten about that. Unfortunately looks like you're out of luck. No voltage jumpers/switches at all. That gives two options: 1) system is only designed for Pentium MMX and so hard-wired for 2.8V. 2) voltage regulation is controlled by BIOS so CPU needs to be …

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Re: Socket 3 vs Socket 4 build

Posted on 2020-01-22, 19:17

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Bottom line: PCI Socket 3 with Am5x86 160Mhz will provide better experience for the most games they both can run adequately. Or at the very least it will be on par with Socket 4 P66 in some scenarios (Quake). Assuming your Am5x86 actually runs at 160MHz. I have four, all do 150MHz (3x50) without …

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Re: Old Compaq

Posted on 2020-01-22, 14:10

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Welcome :) Is this the board? https://651c328d1de292af2c4b-28651361a0deac968501cb8b290a73fd.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/296687-001.jpg If so it's a Compaq motherboard based on the Via VP2 chipset (which has a VT82C595 northbrdige). The chipset definitely isn't the problem, this is a good 1997-era allround …

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Re: SATA to PATA adapter in the vintage computing

Posted on 2020-01-22, 09:32

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I am kind of curious about this as well. Like how large hard drives work using them and what are transfer speeds like. There are many larger sata hard drives than there ever was when it comes to ide hard drives. I just recently got this PCI IDE card and based on info online it says it supports ide …

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Re: Help me identify two motherboards...

Posted on 2020-01-21, 20:56

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Both are very late for their platform, so tiny and highly integrated. That actually makes them relatively stable as it was old tech by the time these appeared. Can't identify the So3 board, but the So7 one is famous and unmistakable with that cache chip inside the socket :P It's a VTech/PCPartner …

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Re: Why are Hercules graphics cards so rare anymore?

Posted on 2020-01-21, 14:03

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Tbh, I come across Hercules cards pretty regularly, almost as often as STB, Asus and MSI cards from similar era. Of course there's a bias here - you spot the blue cards a mile away - but even then, they seem to be a good 5% of mid AGP-era cards, particularly GF2MX. I'm using one now - the Radeon …

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Re: The Turtle Beach MultiSound Classic Thread

Posted on 2020-01-21, 13:26

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Maybe stupid question, but something in the OP saying what this device actually is/does might be useful. As i read it, it seems to be a non-AdLib/SB-compatible card with GM support. That sounds a lot like the Roland SCC-1. Would that be a correct characterisation? Would is be usible as GM card in …

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Re: Philips PC info needed.

Posted on 2020-01-21, 12:54

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Found a pic of the inside of one: https://www.picclickimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/uEUAAOSwSxtdyWdr/$/Vintage-Philips-P3345-Computer-_57.jpg Low-res, but FDD is definitely on motherboard, and it looks like that's a HDD cable under it also leading to motherboard. Can't see RAM, if it's SIMM-based it …

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Re: Philips PC info needed.

Posted on 2020-01-21, 09:37

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Let's see... https://books.google.nl/books?id=UDoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PT5&ots=c1lbr7MVKx&dq=philips%20P3345&pg=PT5#v=onepage&q=philips%20P3345&f=false - i386SX-16 - P3345-004 no hdd - P3345-044 40MB HDD - P3345-104 100MB HDD - 1MB RAM by default (nasty, means 4x 256kB SIMM) - 1.44MB FDD - i387 socket …

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Re: MFM, IDE, EIDE, SCSI, SCSI2 - Grand media comparison

Posted on 2020-01-21, 08:38

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I have an RLL drive, but no controller. Also, the last time I saw it was in the early 2000s, buried somewhere in my closet . I seem to recall that when I last spun it up, some less-than-pleasing sounds came out of it. ESDI, now there's something I haven't seen in a very long time. I have a massive …

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Re: Philips PC info needed.

Posted on 2020-01-20, 22:56

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Philips made quite a lot of (commercially generally unsuccessful) computers in the 1980s and 1990s. Part of the problem was lack of standardization - early ones weren't completely IBM PC compatible, later ones were, but not with the earlier ones. The P3100 series was best-known in NL as quite a few …

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Re: ECS P6EXP-Me CPU Support?

Posted on 2020-01-20, 16:36

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[...] I had a look at the other P3 board I found last week. it's a P3 733 CPU which is currently untested. However due to the motherboard having a faulty SIO the CPU is probably OK (I doubt there were two faults) and a lot of stuff I find at the flea market is actually working (whole PCs) This is …

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Re: MB recommendation for P3 Tualatin 1.4GHz with on-chip socket adapter

Posted on 2020-01-20, 14:32

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Oh no it's not, it's soldered onto the package. The chip itself is the small rectangular thing under the heatspreader. Well, d'oh! Semantics :-) Anyway, thank you for your help. I actually ended up cancelling the order for the modified CPU and now I'm waiting for a Tualatin 1.4GHz + motherboard …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2020-01-20, 14:12

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Quite an unusual board showed up today. Not seen many of these. It's a Tyan Thunder HEsl S2567 Socket 370 Motherboard. I know that the AGP performance is quite lacking on these but will be fun to play with non the less. Came with 2 gig of EEC ram and 2x1GHZ Pentium III CPU's. https://i.imgur.com/ …

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Re: ECS P6EXP-Me CPU Support?

Posted on 2020-01-20, 13:13

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Yes. No idea where the "433MHz max" came from, this is a Mendocino PPGA board and Mendocino goes up to 533Mhz.

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Re: Should I Upgrade from Celeron to Pentium 3?

Posted on 2020-01-20, 09:15

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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not comfortable with overclocking old hardware, especially now that I have the problem with caps. :) Again, fix that first of all. Putting in a P3-1000EB will stress the motherboard voltage regulators (the things you know are failing!) more than overclocking the …

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Re: MFM, IDE, EIDE, SCSI, SCSI2 - Grand media comparison

Posted on 2020-01-20, 09:13

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Nice! RLL and ESDI would be cool too - but even harder to find, so no surprise you weren't able to include them.

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Re: What specs to look for to play DOS Quake, Diablo II, Warcraft III, etc. at HIGH native resolutions?

Posted on 2020-01-19, 23:16

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You might well find that separate DOS and Windows computers work better, less compromises. Particularly if you go down the DOS soundcard rabbit hole. Consider that absolutely no software from 2002 would run on a 1991 machine, and conversely that a lot of 1991 software would be almost unusable on a …

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