Re: Hooking up a Slot 1 motherboard using modern ATX PSU and Case

Posted on 2021-03-08, 16:55

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by dionb

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Ah, the famous drop test 😜 Tbh it's tricky. If you have a minimal set of known-good components you can locate issues very quickly. If not it's more challenging. Know anyone in the vicinity who might have a slot 1 system?

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Re: Hooking up a Slot 1 motherboard using modern ATX PSU and Case

Posted on 2021-03-08, 13:15

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by dionb

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Component by component *outside the case* . Somehow contacting/shorting against the case is a common cause of this sort of issue. With older hardware things can be bent out of shape so this is more likely than with new systems. Other things to take into account: - if it looks 'dead', the problem …

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Re: Compaq HP Multibay I vs II?

Posted on 2021-03-08, 12:59

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by dionb

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ah yes, indeed, battery and floppy as well. also second hard drive was possible... makes me wonder if analog cd audio was routed back into the laptop... The adapter Warlord found on the defunct web shop certainly has analog audio on it. Whether that was also routed back internally on laptops is …

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Re: Compaq HP Multibay I vs II?

Posted on 2021-03-08, 11:08

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by dionb

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Well, ordered a DC373B. Amazingly, getting one in Canada was cheapest, even including shipping - and local ones lacked cables which is an issue as that 5V port is decidedly non-standard. Should have an update in a few weeks, but very optimistic after Thermalwrong's post. And yes, before it was …

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Re: Compaq HP Multibay I vs II?

Posted on 2021-03-08, 00:07

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by dionb

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Woohoo! I'd spotted but also written off the DC373B because it looked too new and seemed only 9mm high on pics (and no sign of one with connector). But if you have the exact device I have running in it (Compaq P/N 178372-133?) that's pretty convincing. And they are indeed pretty widely available 😀

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Re: Compaq HP Multibay I vs II?

Posted on 2021-03-07, 23:25

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by dionb

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Interesting! Here's some pics to document things. Multibay (I), the one I have: multibay-1.png Found image of Multibay II, clearly different: multibay-2.png It's not just the connector, the Multibay II also has the corner of the drive 'cut off'. Now to see about that link you posted, that might just …

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2021-03-07, 22:16

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by dionb

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Mixed day. Good: Did some re-ordering of the 'guest room' where my retro stuff is located. Freed up quite a bit of shelf space, managed to get some heavy boxes with PSUs and cables down from almost unreachable positions to somewhere useful. Moved things in original boxes up to the high shelf. Net …

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Compaq HP Multibay I vs II?

Posted on 2021-03-07, 21:28

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by dionb

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Recently picked up a very interesting device - a Compaq Multibay LS-120 drive, shiny NOS. Wow! Just one problem: how to hook it up to anything else... Now, there's quite a lot of info available about Multibay II, and lots of devices too, including nice USB 2.0 external cradles. Lovely. But this LS- …

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Re: Intel 440BX and Pentium III 1.1 Ghz

Posted on 2021-03-07, 16:48

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by dionb

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Thanks for your all replies and help. When changing FSB to 133, Bios shows speed of 00 Mhz, apparently don't recognize actual speed, but under windows everything is fine and shows speed of 1 Ghz. One more question, for now my P3 in slot 1 has a passive cooling, a big heat sink without fan, so i …

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Re: FIC PA-2007 Performance Bottleneck

Posted on 2021-03-07, 00:43

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by dionb

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Don't know about 2.03, but 2.3.18 should do the trick. http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?file … &menustate=37,0 Despite the filename, the archive contains drivers for all named OSs, including Win95.

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Re: Minimum / Preferred hardware specs for modern MMORPG

Posted on 2021-03-06, 14:41

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by dionb

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Tbh if you want to go multiplayer and online, the first thing to consider is the network stack. With a modern PC, the OS does that for you, but under DOS, you need to write a lot yourself. NDIS/ODI can take some of the work away, but at the cost of big RAM overhead - and conventional memory is …

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Re: Good value PC for Win98 - evading the RETRO TAX

Posted on 2021-03-06, 14:31

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by dionb

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Athlon64 uses 12V for CPU, so basically demands are no different than a modern system - any decent modern PSU will do. I'd recommend rather going for a low rating and good brand rather than high rating and dubious one. 400W would already be overkill for a system like this.

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Re: Intel 440BX and Pentium III 1.1 Ghz

Posted on 2021-03-06, 14:29

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by dionb

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Coppermine is not always exactly Coppermine. There were multiple steppings and from cA0 to cD0 and BIOS frequently needed to be upgraded to support newer steppings. Of course, it wasn't always a big issue if unsupported, but some boards refuse to boot or do other nasty things. A Slot 1 P3-1000E ( …

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Re: External LAN options on ULTIMATE build

Posted on 2021-03-06, 14:07

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by dionb

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FTP with mTCP massively simplifies file transfers in DOS, so I'd say a pretty valid use case. As for hardware, serial port performance is much too low - but why not parallel port? Parallel port to Ethernet adapters exist and can still be found quite cheaply. They're not fast, but something like the …

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Re: Should I upgrade my power supply?

Posted on 2021-03-06, 14:01

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by dionb

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If you had the 130W TDP D 950 running stable but not the 105W TDP Q6600, I'd not be looking to your PSU as biggest cause of problems. That said, this PSU is suspect: no pics of inside available, no reviews on independent review sites. I'd take any claims made on the label with a pinch of salt. …

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Re: Good value PC for Win98 - evading the RETRO TAX

Posted on 2021-03-06, 11:21

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by dionb

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In terms of performance the 9800XT would win clearly, but as very hot cards most tend to be dead these days. So unless the 9800XT is tested and guaranteed good, the Ti4200 would be a much safer bet - and superior to the FX5500 you currently have. Whether it's USD 25 superior... I'd say that's for …

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Re: Should I buy a MT-32 'old' today?

Posted on 2021-03-05, 13:57

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by dionb

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Even cleaner would be a MIDI patchbay, or - if you only want to connect this one system to MIDI devices - a selector. These things actually seem to be getting cheaper rather than more expensive as the number of musicians using DIN MIDI is dropping and (if they don't just throw their stuff away) they …

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Posted on 2021-03-05, 01:20

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Two parcels today. First was a sound card, not one I strictly need (my main Win98SE system already has a Turtle Beach Montego II) but still couldn't resist because of the excellent preservation - just look how shiny even the amp heatsinks are on this Diamond Sonic Impact S90: 16149067223920.jpg Then …

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Re: Which Socket 7 upgrade kit is right for my Socket 5 motherboard?

Posted on 2021-03-05, 01:06

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by dionb

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Afraid I can't answer the main questions, but can chime in that my Spring Circle So5 VLB board with Forex chipset (which I slightly suspect of being a relabeled OPTi 571) also doesn't play nice with non-P54 CPUs. Tried Cyrix 6x86 and it refused to boot, same with an otherwise very tolerant P55C. I …

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Re: BL2 vs BL3

Posted on 2021-03-04, 13:58

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by dionb

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What's the difference between i486DX/2 and i486DX/4?

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