Re: 286 dead, long live the 286! Sourcing and building a fast 286 replacement
Posted on 2021-01-18, 19:25
Ah right, it was Philips, but not Intel, that acquired them. Corrected it in my previous reply.
Re: 3 (+3 more) retro battle stations
Posted on 2021-01-18, 19:22
Zida Tomato TD60C 286 motherboard, based on (what appears to be a hybrid 286/386) Citygate chipset with support of up to 16Mb RAM. A QA sticker on the back says year 1993 - late product for 286 hardware. It came with soldered on-board Harris 25MHz rated CPU. SIMM and on-board memory can be combined. …
Re: 286 dead, long live the 286! Sourcing and building a fast 286 replacement
Posted on 2021-01-18, 18:40
@caluser2000 VLSI were kings of the 286 hill. Not sure what happened to them in 386 land. Some early 386 SX chipset and then gone with the wind. Maybe Philips's acquisition, etc.
Re: 286 dead, long live the 286! Sourcing and building a fast 286 replacement
Posted on 2021-01-18, 18:37
@maxtherabbit Looks like my message was ambiguous. The link megatron-uk provided shows some perf metrics of the Biostar MB-1220VE motherboard running at 20MHz with optimized BIOS settings. These numbers are about 10-20% lower than a clean 286 system, based on VLSI 201 chipset, running at the same …
Re: 286 dead, long live the 286! Sourcing and building a fast 286 replacement
Posted on 2021-01-18, 18:04
Looking at the best perf numbers posted on the Estonian forum. That's about 10-20% slower than what i see here at the same 20MHz frequency. Figured i should bring it up.
Re: I have a “can’t remember the name of the hardware” mystery for you also
Posted on 2021-01-18, 09:07
I had the case you are talking about. Mine was white/beige tho. It was from Fry's. Let me think carefully now, hope i can come up with something.
Re: 286 dead, long live the 286! Peaktron PA286-SMT / Micro Systems PA286-SA1
Posted on 2021-01-18, 06:48
I remember testing a sibling of your peaktron replacement board. It was pretty bad. Not surprised you had problems with it too. The ht12a one is above average, but that's about it. If you want your "speed demon", try to obtain HT12P, or especially VLSI 201 based boards. https://www.petershipkov.com/ …
Re: Asus P2B-DS Build
Posted on 2021-01-16, 10:52
Usb devices require drivers, like everything else. The more recent operating systems cover that pretty well for thumb drives and other common stuff, but nt4 is before that time. If you don't have an nt4 driver, then the usb device in question won't work. Eaarly mobos take care of usb keyboards, some …
Re: Asus P2B-DS Build
Posted on 2021-01-16, 06:42
Nt4 is fine with onboard usb controllers + standard input devices such as keyboards and mice.
Re: How to set Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 (SiS471) into L2:Write-through mode?
Posted on 2021-01-15, 08:36
How do you test it ? I see wb+wb doing better.
Re: Problems using a CF-IDE adapter
Posted on 2021-01-14, 01:23
I hit some problems like this before. It is the IDE controller actually.
Re: What is faster in games? Celeron tualatin 1300@1733 (133FSB) or Pentium 3-S 1400 (133FSB) ?
Posted on 2021-01-14, 00:00
I can confirm what Standard Def Steve wrote above.
Re: 3 (+3 more) retro battle stations
Posted on 2021-01-12, 00:26
Updated the Pentium3 motherboards post above with additional info/images about: - using Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE controller for the Asus and Tyan motherboards instead of their on-board ones (no-go RAID situation) - AGP modded GeForce 6800 Ultra (represented by Quadro FX4000) as an indicator for …
Re: 440BX AGP experts, let's settle this once and for all.
Posted on 2021-01-11, 18:50
Mamba wrote on 2021-01-11, 17:00: If I need to be rational, I would never try 95% of what I try to do with oldware. +1 Good to hear you got a GF on the way. And careful with the file tool on that AGP connector.
Re: Rebuilding my 2004 Doom 3 Machine
Posted on 2021-01-11, 17:29
Good story. The classic retro opera in action, eh ? :) But you are getting somewhere. --- That motherboard box in the pic ! I remember having a Slot1 board like this for a short period of time. It was probably around 1998. It was very slow and clunky. Eventually died less than a year later. It was …
Re: diagnostic card error code
Posted on 2021-01-11, 06:40
Asus p3c-d. NOS, squeaky clean, in great condition. Well, kind of not anymore really, considering it does not wake up. Can post a picture tmrw, but I am positive there is no physical damage. Battery is at 3v, cpus, ram, vga are all in great condition. Looks like some electrical problem.
diagnostic card error code
Posted on 2021-01-11, 05:07
Noticed today that one of the P3 boards that i didn't use for a very long time stopped working. Screen never lights up. Diagnostic card shows 28 - 17, Award BIOS. Error Code 28 for Award says: Enable slots 8, Initialize slot 8, Setup 8242. Brief search online does not return anything conclusive. …
Re: 440BX AGP experts, let's settle this once and for all.
Posted on 2021-01-09, 21:01
Agreed. We can find many scenarios that don't fit my generalization. I also find this thread a bit irrational, but considering the spirit of VOGONS, which is all about irrationality (the most positive meaning of it), then irrational + irrational = irrational, everything fits right in. 😁
Re: 440BX AGP experts, let's settle this once and for all.
Posted on 2021-01-09, 19:48
Interesting thread. In my experience, the graphics performance with this class hardware was almost entirely CPU bound already, considering GPUs from the same time, or later. Going for later video cards will bring little gain. Get the best CPUs instead. At least i don't see significant improvement …
Re: Mystery Motherboard
Posted on 2021-01-06, 18:27
I have that board as well. It is a nice and unusual one, but not sure there is much 386 in it.
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