Re: NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

Posted on 2015-07-13, 20:51

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by swaaye

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Scali I think you feel more strongly about pointing how awful NV3x is than the rest of us really care about anymore. That might be the real issue here. :) We all know about how awful it is for PS2.0 games. On the 5900XT aspect, I think there was a point in the thread where you seemed to relate …

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Re: NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

Posted on 2015-07-13, 20:38

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by swaaye

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F2BNP's calling R300 and NV30 irrelevant is probably coming from the fact that we would rather use a much faster card for such games now. I ran a 9700 from 2003-2006, but if I want to play those games now, I don't look for a 9700 or 5900 at this point. Unless I am just looking to experiment with old …

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Re: NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

Posted on 2015-07-13, 20:25

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by swaaye

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Doom3 had a special path for NV30 hardware, and also used the UltraShadow extensions, for which ATi had no alternative. The first software that showed problems with NV30 as I said is 3DMark03. People were shocked, in disbelief, to say the least. They just couldn't understand why NV30 was that much …

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Re: NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

Posted on 2015-07-13, 20:12

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by swaaye

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I recall the 5900XT being perceived as a pretty solid value at the time, probably the best for the whole FX lineup. It's just a 5900 Ultra with lower clock speeds. The games of the time were still mostly a mix of D3D7/8 and the FX cards are fine with these. It wasn't overly apparent for awhile that …

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Re: NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

Posted on 2015-07-13, 18:11

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by swaaye

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I too have read that Pixel Shader 2.0 was basically designed around R300. They brought out the small iterations to cover NV3x, R4x0, and others later. NV3x is apparently considerably more flexible than R300, but we all know how the performance adds up. I've also read that a major problem with NV3x …

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Re: Direct3D 12 and GPUs

Posted on 2015-07-13, 18:02

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by swaaye

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I've split this off from my 2900 XT thread.

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-13, 17:52

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by swaaye

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Direct3D 12 talk has been moved to Direct3D 12 and GPUs NV3x and R3x0 vs pixel shader 2.0 talk has been moved to NV3x, R3x0, and pixel shader 2.0

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-13, 03:56

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by swaaye

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Ok I can't seem to replicate the Deus Ex Human Revolution black smoke issue I had the other day. It seems to work fine now in both XP and 7. I haven't a clue what was going on before. interesting graph I thought I should add SUPER HUGE MARKETSHARE CHART What strikes me about this is how the …

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 21:10

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by swaaye

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[What I'm more interested in seeing is DX11.3 vs DX12 real world in-game - given that Mantle tends not to be an overwhelming performance improvement despite all of its purported advantages, call me skeptical about DX12's merits real-world. I think the primary platform to benefit from DX12, at least …

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 20:59

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by swaaye

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We'll see how the D3D 12 thing goes down when the first game comes along with support for it.

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 19:07

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by swaaye

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the HD3870 was priced similar to Geforce 8800GT 256MB while the 8800GT 512MB was priced somewhat higher. The HD3870 best selling point was the fact that it was actually possible to buy it... That's true :lol: . However, once supply stopped being an issue, 8800GT was a much better card. I remember …

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 19:02

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by swaaye

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- Oblivion stutters badly with drivers newer than ~10.6 on XP. Could be nForce4 related. - MSAA does hit performance hard as reviews showed. I can confirm these two issues. Stuttering isn't NF4 related, it is happening on Intel P67 + i5 2500k as well.... and not only HD 2900 XT - all Radeon HD 2000 …

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Re: WinXP Ultimate Legacy Video Cards

Posted on 2015-07-12, 18:49

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by swaaye

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Further FWIR AMD enabled SSAA on GCN mostly to thumb their noses at nVidia, just like their introduction of VSR more recently. IME the SSAA modes are perfectly workable even on relatively newer titles, for example I run Fallout 3 with 4x SSAA and still average 100 FPS or better, and it looks (imho) …

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 16:31

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by swaaye

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Yeah 8800GTX/GTS launched in late 2006 and were competing with X1950XTX for quite awhile. HD 2900 was late. The silicon needed an additional spin IIRC. 8800GT (G92) and 38x0 (RV670) came late in 2007. 8800GT was faster than 2900XT and as such is faster than 38x0 as well.

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 16:18

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by swaaye

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This card has the Rage Theater 200? What does it use it for? I thought only the ATI made All-in-Wonder cards had the chip (for VIVO). Getting video capture working on the chip in Windows 7 (Assuming that is what its for) is impossible. You have to use XP. The only luck I had with the T200 is with …

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Re: HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 15:46

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by swaaye

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They should run just as well with 6+6 pin PEG. But they are picky about PSUs I heard. Just bought DDR3 one for me as well, but it does not post for me :depressed: Watching later reviews, they were slowly catching up to as time went by. It does run with dual 6-pin power yes. I read that you need 8- …

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HD 2900XT

Posted on 2015-07-12, 15:26

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by swaaye

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I bought a 1GB GDDR4-equipped HD 2900XT for $30 the other day. I have played around with it quite a bit on a nForce4 setup. It's an interesting card. The mystery as to why it has 128GB/s memory bandwidth, needs an 8-pin+6-pin power setup, and yet can't match an 8800GTS tickles my brain. Some things …

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Re: Rage 128 Pro

Posted on 2015-07-12, 03:10

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by swaaye

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I could swear that my Unreal CD offers to install DX5. Wasn't Unreal released prior to Windows 98? Unreal shipped in April 1998 and didn't have D3D support. D3D support came in like September or October in a patch and was initially specifically for the Matrox G200. That would most likely have been …

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Re: Rage 128 Pro

Posted on 2015-07-12, 02:49

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by swaaye

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Unreal / UT D3D is designed for D3D 7 so I could see D3D 6 being problematic. Though some early versions of Unreal D3D were for D3D 6.

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Re: Rage 128 Pro

Posted on 2015-07-11, 23:48

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by swaaye

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Running a Glide wrapper on a D3D6 card is probably not going to work out well. Plus you would be relying on ATI Rage-era OpenGL. :) There may be a UT D3D.dll that works better with Rage 128 than the one with whatever patch he was using. There was a sort of official Epic blog site that followed their …

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