Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-07, 01:40

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You really must be responding to someone elses post. In life there's such thing as a reasonable facsimile. That doesn't make it poor. It makes it acceptable to some sizeable portion of people. You are fully within your rights to reject am fpga reproduction. Just leave me alone and let me like what I …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-06, 22:22

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Is a gate for gate reproduction possible with an fpga? Fpgas or at least the old pal/gal type have some form of gate. I think everyone would like to have actual burned into silicon reproductions of their beloved chips. But having something less then ideal is better the nothing.

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-06, 19:49

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The Ruskies.had an 8086.clone., perhaps an 8088 also. I have 3 ofntheir 8086s. Have yet to test them. Nothing I own currently runs at the moment.

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Re: SGI Indy vs. Amiga 4000/4000t or Atari TT030

Posted on 2023-10-06, 04:05

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Iirc the Indy was around 5000 us and came out the same year as the A3000T. Which according to Wikipedia cost roughly the same. I never even knew there was a 3000T. Nor a 4000T prior to yesterday. As an aside, been gawking at the base.model Minimig. I think I'd lile to have a 3000/4000 close. …

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SGI Indy vs. Amiga 4000/4000t or Atari TT030

Posted on 2023-10-06, 02:30

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This question is probably more applicable to Amiga owners then Atari, thougj I'm sure Atari had multiple upgrade paths. The Indy probably beats all in terms of speed. And definitely graphical performance eapecially if you had a higher end card. Just wondering how Amiga and Atari devotees viewed the …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 22:49

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Well as a result of this thread, I'm giving serious consideration to buying a Minimig or something. Ok not precisely on topic. But oh well. Every topic eventually faces exhaustion. The 64 though, amongst all the computers that ever were produced will emcourage discussion of various issues that were …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 20:23

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Capitalism, when done responsibly, is all about the people. People often conflate capitalism with an unbridled laissez faire type of capitalism. Certain pundits have coined the term corporatist. You can be a capitalist without being a corporatist. The latter being a sort of idiot, lock step, boot …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 19:26

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A tip is part of the meal. It's just another way of looking at things. The owner would charge more money for food if he had to pay servers more it's that simple. I've told in certain countries (western europe) service can be very rude. The server doesn't have to worry what the patrons think of their …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 18:54

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Personally, I've never been a fan about mass production or profit maximization. Both are instruments for exploitation, I think. I'm more comfortable with individualism, homebrewing and things that last for decades. Exploitation, yeah, right. All those computerized plants with industrial robots and …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 18:48

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It's more about mass consumption then anything else. People like to have the latest and greatest whenever possible. We wouldn't have the advances in computer and electronics technology if it weren't for people's desire to have something new and zany. Or upggade from a previous model. The Commie 64 …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-05, 17:43

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I've told this story elsewhere. The very first Atari PC was nothing more then a vanilla pc case and who knows what under the hood. Years ago, probably 2003 or 2004 there was such an item on ebay.ca. i was thinking of buying it, I balked. And it wasn't a lot of money. Others have speculated it was …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 23:22

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Oh, and I also used the Commodore 1702 monitor with the Sharp back then. Both were working exceptionally well together. The 1702 was a beautiful monitor, and worked exceptionally well as a (live) video monitor. The one I have presently has a lot of burn:(. I want to stick something else in it's …

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Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

Posted on 2023-10-04, 23:18

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Rav wrote on 2023-10-04, 21:55: Learning how to use XMS memory with C is what I did today. Give us the particulars and highlights of your journey.

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Re: Epson Equity

Posted on 2023-10-04, 21:13

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Can the Equity 1 use a vanilla pc compatible keyboard? Actually there seems to be 2 asics. Not sure what those part numbers represent. Don't feel like looking them up right now.

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 19:18

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And that's quite a feat. It didn't even need a monitor to be pretty complete! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 19:04

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My point is that almost any computer was sold as sort of a kit so it's pointless to argue regarding add-ons saying that they weren't part of the computer. Not everything has to be included. Some products are just more sensibly equipped from the getgo. I bought an unknown graphics card from a big …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 18:33

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Quick Basic is 1 of my favorite products of that period. You could take your basic know how (that I originally developed on trs-80) and use it to build compiled executables. Basic in general gets a bad rap. The thing is everyone knew it. QB wasnkind of cheap also. 69 or 99 usd (cheap enough). …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 18:26

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Machine language monitors? Actually they did. It was called DEBUG. If you're referring to display monitors, that was the beauty of most pc's. You could buy what you wanted. In 1987 I emptied all my piggy banks and bought an NEC Multisymc II. As all I had at that point was a Tandy 2000, and didn't …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 18:21

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My underlying point is some people can't accept criticism of their favorite childhood puter. The C64 had certain shortcomings. All computera do. Commodore should have, could have done much (actually little) to improve the original design. Or package rather. I never programmed a breadbin. I bought a …

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Re: C64 fans seem to me more passionate and committed than retro-computing fans

Posted on 2023-10-04, 18:12

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BASIC was in rom on IBM computers. Graphic extensions were loaded from disk with BASICA (Advanced BASIC). Name 2 8088/8086/80186 based desktops that didn't come with GW-BASIC. A cartridge is an extension of what the computer comes with. No C64 came with graphics primitives, nor Simon's Basic. PCs …

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