I've been messing with UMBPCI for a few days using Virtual PC. Aside from Virtual PC 5 being rather awesome, UMBPCI is very cool. Works well. And I've gained a better understanding of things related to HMA. Which made me look at my DOS prompt configuration on Win2K. Running MI.COM, I saw something …

I haven't tried it yet, but if I understand the program correctly, it'll give me a good amount of UMBs to load stuff high, but... It's not an EMS manager. I suppose it'd solve one problem, anyway. Thanks!

UMBPCI? Never heard of it, but it sounds interesting. I'll take a look. Unfortunately, my darn sound card has never worked terribly well in real DOS, but it does alright from a DOS box under Win9x (also on my D drive).

Sorry if I got confusing. Sometime I get a little long-winded and use a few too many commas. :D I am talking about EMS under Win2K, but was also mentioning that I was also having difficulties under actual DOS. Yeah, it's a dual boot, but I did it in an odd way so that I could use NTFS on my C drive …

I know. I was talking about that old DOS game I had that used >600KB conventional. Anyway, I've tried MoM and it complains there's no EMS, so I don't know. I guess I'm just SOL. I think I've got an old 486 sitting around here, but it's such a pain...

I had a game once that wanted over 600KB conventional memory free. I can't remember what it was, though. It's a good thing it didn't want EMS, too. Never would have happened.

Well, I was talking about EMM386 under true DOS (which I have on a seperate hard drive). I've got enough conventional memory under Win2K to run most stuff, and I know how to disable CD-ROM extentions and stuff to get more. But wait a minute, there, Snover... Mem isn't reporting that you have any EMS …

No problems on your end with the RAID, eh Snover? Dang. Well, there goes that theory. I am pretty sure it's the RAID's ROM that's eating all the UMBs in DOS, but I guess that doesn't explain Win2K. The only constant between all of my Win2K installs has been my sound card (forgot that I kept that, …

Thanks for all the links, Stiletto, but all of the long ones seem to have been truncated and bring up error 404s. I suppose if I wasn't feeling kinda lazy, I could hunt down the pages you linked myself... The EPoX link worked, though, and I see what you're talking about there. That's the exact error …

I posted about this a long time back on the original forums (Bravenet), but perhaps someone's found something out since then. Prepare for a longwinded explanation... ;) I cannot, for the life of me, get EMS under Win2K. I used to just think it was something funky up with my hardware, my motherboard …