I'd like SB emulation for Win98 the same way I'd like Cold Fusion. It would be great, but I'm not banging the drum for it as it would be a very difficult task that few are willing to put forth the effort.

Why would it be such an effort then? Vlad quoted a 7/10 in difficulty terms 😀

And I thought Cold Fusion already existed.

Oh, dude, you had the same problem with MadTV 1 and mouse support? *phew* Glad to hear I'm not the only one, I, err, guess, insofar that I was worried there was something seriously wrong with my system. (Well, I mean, there was, but...yeah.) Anyway, the main reason VDMS is extremely non-portable is because it uses lots of specific NT calls, like Vlad said to you.

It's open source, so it's not like Vlad is the only one that can work on it -- it's just that nobody else has the knowhow/interest/time to do so.

Finally, since Win9x is a rapidly dying breed, there isn't much incentive, as far as the time-spent-porting-to-time-used ratio is concerned. (Plus, most have moved up to Windows 2000/XP by now.)

jez wrote:

And I thought Cold Fusion already existed.

Sure, it's in that lab right next to that one with the anti-gravity hoverboards from "Back to the Future II".

In all seriousness, cold fusion may be possible. But I don't think there's conclusive proof right now. It would be a great power resource. However, if they screwed up badly enough, it would likely cause a explosion so large that it could eradicate all of the North American continent; removing the associated crust and expose major portions of the mantle beneath.

The oceans would then pour down in the mantle, probably boiling a large portion of the world's oceans and possibly dissipating a lot of the earth's atmosphere in the process. Which in turn would probably eliminate all life more complex beyond simple bacteria.

Actually, that's an unlikely worse-case scenario. Besides all animal/human life would probably be killed off from a combination of the original explosion, the resulting catastrophic tidal waves, and the debris that would be thrown into the (what remains of) the atmosphere.

And knowing that there are various governmental agencies working on this... well...

*flies off to Mars*

Snover wrote:

*flies off to Mars*

Where Logan 5 and Jessica 6 wait to greet you.

But there should be people trying to work on porting it to Win98, coz the point is that it's an OS which can run DOS games a LOT better than 2k/xp. So you people with XP should be setting up dual boots. It's not impossible, I did it. Mad TV 1 would work fine in 98 for me if only I had an Adlib-compatible soundcard, but as they're nearly unheard of nowadays, it's important to be emulating it...

Any ideas on why the mouse might not work in Mad TV 1 in XP? And is that emulatable?

Win98 support is a really good idea and I may have a go at writing that VxD. I'm using Win98SE myself. Who should I ask about what functions to implement, etc?

All the best,
Ogre

I'd try e-mailing ntvdm@hotmail.com - he seems to be the main developer of VDMsound. And if you did write the VxD, I would be prepared to have your babies. 😀

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Sure, it's in that lab right next to that one with the anti-gravity hoverboards from "Back to the Future II".

In all seriousness, cold fusion may be possible. But I don't think there's conclusive proof right now. It would be a great power resource. However, if they screwed up badly enough, it would likely cause a explosion so large that it could eradicate all of the North American continent; removing the associated crust and expose major portions of the mantle beneath.

The oceans would then pour down in the mantle, probably boiling a large portion of the world's oceans and possibly dissipating a lot of the earth's atmosphere in the process. Which in turn would probably eliminate all life more complex beyond simple bacteria.

Actually, that's an unlikely worse-case scenario. Besides all animal/human life would probably be killed off from a combination of the original explosion, the resulting catastrophic tidal waves, and the debris that would be thrown into the (what remains of) the atmosphere.

I think jez was thinking you meant this:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/

Yeah, I'd like Win98 support too, but that's a pipe dream.

Stiletto: well guessed 😀

And it is NOT a pipe dream! It's perfectly possible, if someone with the knowledge just programs ONE VxD. It shouldn't be seen as even close to unachievable.

Ogre wrote:

...and I may have a go at writing that VxD.

Good luck. I think a Win9x version would be great...It's just that whoever attempts to writ it will have to really work to make it happen.

jez wrote:

I'd try e-mailing ntvdm@hotmail.com - he seems to be the main developer of VDMsound

Heh-heh. Vlad was and is the only developer. It's been open-sourced for quite some time, but he's yet to get a partner on it.

jez wrote:

I'd try e-mailing ntvdm@hotmail.com - he seems to be the main developer of VDMsound. And if you did write the VxD, I would be prepared to have your babies. 😀

All right, I e-mailed him -- but don't expect too much, I'm a student myself and I don't have much spare time...

All the best,

Ogre

Maybe a team effort of some kind would be a good idea, might get the VxD written, u know, different people working of different functions of it..... if only I could figure out how to program the things in ASM, I might help 😉

If he got http://vdmsound.sourceforge.net/ working again, it might help there be a community to develop VDMsound. Why is it unavailable? The alternative website suggested is *horrendusly* slow.

By the way, for anyone interedted in developing Windows 98 VxDs, here are a couple of URLs containing useful downloads:
http://www.techsoftpl.com/vxd/download.htm
(VxDWriter - write VxDs in C/C++)
http://www.microsoft.com/ddk/ddk98.asp
(Windows 98 DDK download from their website)
^ However, Microsoft say the Windows 98 DDK will only be available until the *30TH SEPTEMBER*, ie. 4 days!!! I can't seem to find the download on any other websites.... if anyone knows of an alternative location, please post it. Thanks.

Update: Possible alternative download for the 98DDK - but for how long?
ftp://csd.uniyar.ac.ru/pub/win9x/devel/98ddk.exe

jez, you remind me of... me, in a way, the way you become a promoter of things.
(Evidence of my doing this is spread all throughout the forums here... hehe...)

The VDMSound sourceforge is working...it's just that sourceforge sucks.

Ok, the NO side seems to be leading by one vote.
Not to worry though for the YES side; someone (Chris Chua) has kindly offered his help. Chris has already written and compiled the VxD, so you should hear some news soon (ok, not *too* soon, but soon).

V.

I just voted "YES" so now we are 50/50! 😁